Topic: ua-5 and scms, wtf??

[C.Clark]

this a pretty straightforward question, and please save the ua-5 isnt bit perfect thing, its a dual purpose recording and transfering tool for me as i dont have the scratch to pick up something better.
to the question.  Mic D sent me an sts9 tape to transfer for him, he taped it on a D8 with a sony dds 90m, i put it in my D100 sending it through the digi in on the ua-5 to my lappy and get the blinking light telling me it wont let me transfer it due to scms.  what can i do to get it on the comp with the ua-5 without getting kevin's deck to transfer it with, any ideas, or am i screwd and cant transfer this digitally to my computer???
-this is my first experience with a scms warning and its really pissing me off and wishing i had just gotten a m1 instead, any good cheap external soundcards out there that are cheap and strip scms, as i dont want to go through this again, thanks for you help guys
-chris

[sexymexi]

don't know if this will help, but a simple search on google had these responces.  good luck man.

http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/pbscms.html

http://www.xs4all.nl/~fjkraan/digaud/dtc790/defscms.html

[C.Clark]

thanks for the links matt, +T, i may just be looking for a new soundcard now, and possibly just digimod the ua-5 for field use, or sell, im not sure yet, i hate not being able to transfer things timely

[sexymexi]

after the initial bugs when first transfering using a UA-5, i've had no problems other than plugging the in to the out and having no signal passing through.  Stupid mistakes like that happen to everyone, but i've never had a problem with SCMS, heard and read a little bit about it, but never experienced it.  

If all else fails run an analog into your computer from your dat, the SCMS probably only protects it going over a digital signal.  hope you get it figured out.

matt

[C.Clark]

scms is only digital, and this is the first time, since starting with dat about a year ago, that ive ever had a problem, and ive done transfers for other people using the same setup i have now

[leegeddy]

>>Mic D sent me an sts9 tape to transfer for him, he taped it on a D8 with a sony dds 90m, i put it in my D100 sending it through the digi in on the ua-5 to my lappy and get the blinking light telling me it wont let me transfer it due to scms.

is the tape the master or a 1st clone?

scms allows you to make 1 digital clone of a master (unless the master is set to ID 01), then no more digital clones are allowed.

>>this is my first experience with a scms warning and its really pissing me off and wishing i had just gotten a m1 instead

i *think*, you'd have the same problem with the M1.  M1 will still send the scms flag out digitally.  i don't think a pro-deck strips the code, but merely ignores it when it receives the digital signal.

for example, i have 2 prodecks at home for cloning. when i read a tape's ID and notice that it's "01" (meaning "no digital clones permitted"), my recorder will still digtially record even though the incoming digital signal contains scms flag.

>>any good cheap external soundcards out there that are cheap and strip scms, as i dont want to go through this again, thanks for you help guys.

i've been using dio 2496, and it's very easy to use.  dio2448 used is about $35 on ebay from time to time.  i'm sure other older cards made by egosys, etc. are pretty cheap on the auction block.

hope this helps,
marc
 

[Chris K]

and please save the ua-5 isnt bit perfect thing, its a dual purpose recording and transfering tool for me as i dont have the scratch to pick up something better.

can someone point me to the evidence that the ua-5 is not bit perfect. i think i read a post a while back that edirol was stating this...but i cant seem to find anything to support this.

[C.Clark]

leegedy, i know its a clone, not sure if its a first generation or 2nd, ill have to get back to you on that, im looking for a reason to upgrade my transfer lineage anyway, just need to find a good solution that is capable of 24/96 in the future

[leegeddy]

leegedy, i know its a clone, not sure if its a first generation or 2nd, ill have to get back to you on that, im looking for a reason to upgrade my transfer lineage anyway, just need to find a good solution that is capable of 24/96 in the future

chris;

try transfering one of your masters via the same setup. your setup should pass signal to your hdd.  since scms isn't ignored by the ua-5, you can't pass the clone's signal.

i gotta get me one of those ua-5's to play around with.

marc

[todd e]

side note, i will be happy to transfer and seed for a torrent, the sts9 tape.  i have a r500 and a newly purchased Behringer SRC2000 which would strip any SCMS along with re-sampling.  pm me if you need it done, plus, i have a bit perfect soundcard so the seed would improve too.  thanks

[C.Clark]

leegedy, i know its a clone, not sure if its a first generation or 2nd, ill have to get back to you on that, im looking for a reason to upgrade my transfer lineage anyway, just need to find a good solution that is capable of 24/96 in the future

chris;

try transfering one of your masters via the same setup. your setup should pass signal to your hdd.  since scms isn't ignored by the ua-5, you can't pass the clone's signal.

i gotta get me one of those ua-5's to play around with.

marc

it does, ive transfered at least 30-40 masters this way and a couple clones before, not sure why it scms prevented me this time, oh well, ill figure it out