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PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« on: May 18, 2019, 03:16:11 AM »
While trying to steer a friend in the right direction on powering DPA 4080's with the smallest from factor possible for  >:D situations, the idea came to me that - wouldn't it be great if someone offered a mod to the PIP on your M-10 or R-07 or what have you, so that the plug in power voltage would provide 8-ish volts instead of whatever the standard is (I think 4.5 or 5V is the highest PIP I've read about) and I think only 3V in most cases.
It sure would be nice to be able to plug your 4061's or 4080's straight into your deck and eliminate the extra cables and batteries that come with a battery box or external preamp.
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2019, 04:28:54 AM »
recent testing indicates the official DPA equipment (d:vice and phantom>microdot adapters) provide 2.4-2.7V under load, the same as many PIP handhelds

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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2019, 07:22:34 AM »
wouldn't it be great if someone offered a mod to the PIP on your M-10 or R-07 or what have you, so that the plug in power voltage would provide 8-ish volts instead of whatever the standard is (I think 4.5 or 5V is the highest PIP I've read about) and I think only 3V in most cases.
Consider that this would burn batteries way faster.
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2019, 09:19:00 AM »

A Marantz PMD620 supplies close to 5V on the mic input. Easier to use a deck that does it already than modify one that doesn't.
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2019, 10:47:06 AM »
While trying to steer a friend in the right direction on powering DPA 4080's with the smallest from factor possible for  >:D situations, the idea came to me that - wouldn't it be great if someone offered a mod to the PIP on your M-10 or R-07 or what have you, so that the plug in power voltage would provide 8-ish volts instead of whatever the standard is (I think 4.5 or 5V is the highest PIP I've read about) and I think only 3V in most cases.
It sure would be nice to be able to plug your 4061's or 4080's straight into your deck and eliminate the extra cables and batteries that come with a battery box or external preamp.

I have thought this as well. I would love to see a MOD for something like this.
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 02:19:02 PM »
R07 worked well with Microdot actives and full sized caps. Can’t imagine it wouldn’t power 4061s, will test
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:28:58 PM »
R07 worked well with Microdot actives and full sized caps. Can’t imagine it wouldn’t power 4061s, will test

Wow! Really? That's awesome. What full sized caps?
I recorded Neil Young last night with the 4080's and an R-07, but ran a Church Ugly Battery box in between. Too nervous to rely just on the PIP. I will have to experiment with a loud show. Tedeschi Trucks is this Thursday and Friday. Maybe I'll run those 4080's straight into the R-07....
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 03:29:33 PM »
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Re: PIP MOD for more power? Is there such a thing?
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 03:58:45 PM »
I've done this exact mod to my R07 so that it now supplies 9V PIP ... I velcroed a Church Audio Ugly Battery Box to the back  ;)
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