Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)

[mountainhop]

with a similar sony device that uses both card and internal memory, ive been able to solve this problem by using the internal memory. the card was plenty fast for what i w was doing, but the internal memory was always more foolproof in testing

test test test

easy to find drop samples by recording a single tone then searching the waveform in an editor

[restevezes]

What kind of battery box problem did you encounter?

A10s PIP is pretty anemic, 2 something volts and may not give the CA11s enough juice handle high SPLs. the internal mics are low sens enough to not overload in my experience.

thanks for replies. powering problem was solved and I was able to run ca11 > ugly > a10

I will post samples later of the internal mics

[rigpimp]

Can anyone else confirm that 5G interferes with their A10?  A buddy from Texas said he narrowed signal path interference down to his A10 and wont run it without airplane mode now.

[vanark]

Can anyone else confirm that 5G interferes with their A10?  A buddy from Texas said he narrowed signal path interference down to his A10 and wont run it without airplane mode now.

I know on my 5G phone, I can force it to 4G.

I haven't seen this yet but I don't know if I've taped while getting 5G.

[ol' dirty taper]

Can anyone else confirm that 5G interferes with their A10?  A buddy from Texas said he narrowed signal path interference down to his A10 and wont run it without airplane mode now.

Have not experienced this and have been using it while on 5G. Maybe it was the cables used, battery box, maybe it was the mics, there are other unknown variables.

[morst]

Can anyone else confirm that 5G interferes with their A10?  A buddy from Texas said he narrowed signal path interference down to his A10 and wont run it without airplane mode now.

GSM (AT&T for instance) & CDMA (Verizon and T-Mobile for instance) have different radio properties.
I wonder if the 5G interference is limited to one or the other, or if they are converged now?


GSM was well known for causing interference RIGHT BEFORE it would ring.
I recall hearing the tones on my buddy's car radio back in 2006, before he received each call on ATT network: "Beep Beep Beep, Beep Beep Beep" (very clicky beeps)

[DavidPuddy]

Can anyone else confirm that 5G interferes with their A10?  A buddy from Texas said he narrowed signal path interference down to his A10 and wont run it without airplane mode now.

Have not experienced this and have been using it while on 5G. Maybe it was the cables used, battery box, maybe it was the mics, there are other unknown variables.

Same here, no issues since March.

[rigpimp]

Believe it or not shortly after I posted that message yesterday about 5G and the A10 one of our other buddies sent over a file he said had noise on it.  I figured I would put it into RX and remove the buzz and this is what I saw.  https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=200777.0

This is one of his first two shows with new hearing aids and wearing mics in his hat.  We have deduced the hearing aids as the most likely culprit and when you listen to it it sounds like RF interference.  We still do not know if it was the mics, cables, or recorder but let this is a heads up for those of you with new ears or about to get some.

[mountainhop]

wow, were those old school hearing aids or the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" per recent legislation?

were they completely in-ear? thats quite the noise pattern

assuming he can replicate it at home and has tried different cables

those who have experienced 5g interference, does it have to be in your pocket? or are we stuck being in an RFI minefield in any future concert environments due to the crowd?

[guitard]

wow, were those old school hearing aids or the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" per recent legislation?

I'm not not familiar with the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" - but I have new hearing aids that are bluetooth and are basically hearing aids / high quality earbuds.  They aren't cheap though IMO; they would have been $2K each when I got them two years ago, but (fortunately) I get them free through the Veterans Administration.  I never wear my hearing aids to shows though, so I can't say if they interfere with my A10. 

[mountainhop]

wow, were those old school hearing aids or the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" per recent legislation?

I'm not not familiar with the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" - but I have new hearing aids that are bluetooth and are basically hearing aids / high quality earbuds.  They aren't cheap though IMO; they would have been $2K each when I got them two years ago, but (fortunately) I get them free through the Veterans Administration.  I never wear my hearing aids to shows though, so I can't say if they interfere with my A10.

i think the reclass has to do with allowing the cheaper, not-fit-by-qualified-audiologist class of hearing devices as "hearing aids" is a semantics thing for insurance

theyre just starting to roll out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/hearing-aids-available-over-the-counter-starting-in-october-here-e2-80-99s-what-you-should-know/ar-AA12tLtP

[guitard]

wow, were those old school hearing aids or the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" per recent legislation?

I'm not not familiar with the newer cheaper devices now allowed to be classified as "hearing aids" - but I have new hearing aids that are bluetooth and are basically hearing aids / high quality earbuds.  They aren't cheap though IMO; they would have been $2K each when I got them two years ago, but (fortunately) I get them free through the Veterans Administration.  I never wear my hearing aids to shows though, so I can't say if they interfere with my A10.

i think the reclass has to do with allowing the cheaper, not-fit-by-qualified-audiologist class of hearing devices as "hearing aids" is a semantics thing for insurance

theyre just starting to roll out

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/shopping/hearing-aids-available-over-the-counter-starting-in-october-here-e2-80-99s-what-you-should-know/ar-AA12tLtP

I have come to realize there are shockingly high number of older people who can't hear for shit.  And a lot of them can't afford $2K (each) for hearing aids.  So that's good news about the cheaper versions becoming available.

Side story: my wife was born deaf in one ear.  She was told it was because of nerve damage and was permanent.  A couple of years ago, we were at Sam's Club and the audiologist there was doing free hearing tests.  It took some prodding, but I finally got my wife to give it a shot.  The lady did some testing and then inserted a hearing aid in my wife's ear.  You should have seen the look of surprise and amazement on her face when she heard through that ear for the first time.

[checht]

So great to hear that tech could help her!

From the NYT - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/10/health/hearing-aids-fda.html

Self-perceived mild to moderate hearing loss, the condition that over-the-counter hearing aids are designed to address, affects about one-quarter of people in their 60s, half of those in their 70s and three-quarters of those over 80.

Ninety-plus percent of adults with hearing loss have needs that can be served by over-the-counter hearing aids,

[roffels]

Not a huge deal but minor nuisance, I read in the manual there should be no audio lost when the a10 switches from internal memory to the microsd card, but in my most recent recording, there's a little under a second missing. Not seamless at all.

[gmm6797]

Never had an issue and I tapes 100s and 100s of shows . Maybe it is a memory card being slow?