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Windscreen Advice
« on: June 18, 2024, 11:12:37 AM »
Got a little beat up by the wind this weekend at a festival and realized it's time to buy some better windscreens.

Was hoping someone could help me find something that doesn't cost $150 each as I have multiple pairs of mics.

I run Schoeps MK22's without bodies and also some Schoeps Verticals without bodies.

I know I am going to have to spend some money but am struggling with what I am finding as it is either $15 or $150 each - thinking the $15 model is not what I want and the $150 is a little nutty to spend in my mind.  Help!!!  Any help / advice would be appreciated
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2024, 11:31:10 AM »
I run these on my actives, 3cm version.

Movo WSTT50 Professional

In a very heavy wind, I throw dead rats over them, but not really necessary in my experience.

https://www.amazon.com/Movo-Professional-Windscreen-Technology-Microphones/dp/B00YHTUCQM

Cheaper direct from Movo, I think.
https://www.movophoto.com/products/wst-premium-ballistic-nylon-windscreen
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2024, 11:40:20 AM »
I like the Movo WS-G30s, which I believe go for about 20 bucks each from Amazon. 

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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2024, 03:08:25 PM »
I like the Movo WS-G30s, which I believe go for about 20 bucks each from Amazon.

I've heard folks complain the furry versions aren't as effective as the ballistic nylon?
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2024, 03:18:57 PM »

Another vote for the Movo Ballistic nylon. Never had a wind problem with them even with gusts over 30 mph.
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2024, 03:49:44 PM »
I like the Movo WS-G30s, which I believe go for about 20 bucks each from Amazon.

I've heard folks complain the furry versions aren't as effective as the ballistic nylon?

Interesting. I wonder if anybody has done a one to one comparison of the two models.

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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2024, 04:05:09 PM »
I like the Movo WS-G30s, which I believe go for about 20 bucks each from Amazon.

I've heard folks complain the furry versions aren't as effective as the ballistic nylon?

Interesting. I wonder if anybody has done a one to one comparison of the two models.

There has been a lot of discussion here about these windscreens so it should be able to be located.
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2024, 04:45:37 PM »
ran movo ballistic nylons on one pair and the big old dpa0896 on another at a recent show which was very windy... the movos did a much much better job of attenuating wind noise

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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2024, 04:58:31 PM »
The Movo's work great. 

In my experience, the most frequent wind problem with any windscreen is air leakage through/around the mic-insertion opening.  In the Movo design that's alleviated by the snug-fitting rubber cuff.. as long as that cuff remains snug around the body of the capsule or mic-body to avoid all air leaks.   The Movo generally does that very well with standard diameter pencil mics.  I'm still working up a better way adapting them to smaller diameter mics without resorting to an attempted gaff tape seal around the entry point, since gaff tape doesn't like to adhere to the rubber cuff. 

For a side-address Schoeps capsule you may need or want a slightly longer version than for end-address.  Call Movo and ask what lengths they have in stock as they sometimes have lengths not shown as available on the website and through resellers.  They used to stock many different lengths that are no longer made. If necessary you can buy them longer than needed, cut down and re-glue the cuff in place.  I made a thread with photos covering the process of doing that for a stereo shotgun mic when all they had available was one that was much too long.  Not difficult.

I also bought a competitor's furry version (seems to have nicer fur than the furry Movos, and it was already the correct length) which otherwise seems the same construction and materials as the Movo furry version.  I may do a "shop fan test" of the four different windscreens I have for that shotgun mic.  If I do I'll post about it.  That test would consist of: no windscreen, thin foam screen, snug fitting fur windscreen (with no airspace between mic and fur), Movo fabric covered screen, Movo-competitor fur covered screen, all from the same position in front of the fan.

 
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2024, 05:06:05 PM »
Link to the thread on cutting down the Movo windscreen- https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=204450.msg2408439#msg2408439

That thread features photos which show the construction of the Movo windscreen, it's cuff, cross-sections of its outer fabric and internal foam, etc.  It also includes photos of the competitor's furry version mentioned above, which is the same length but significantly fatter.
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2024, 01:34:54 AM »
I use the Rode WS8 windscreens for heavy wind using actives & bodies

The biggest reason is that I can compress these in a ziplock and stuff them in my gear back. They dont take up a lot of space at all.
$25/ea Price point is great
And they work awesome!!
Great for actives with the SRS mounts using multiples mics. The Movo's need a bit more room inbetween mics to work properly with some of the mounts.

https://rode.com/en-us/accessories/windshields/ws8?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw7ZO0BhDYARIsAFttkChf8D8VRhFWaoqguITwy3SZ1eTDHL1UEFXShQyul-wW0RDwKRFggw4aAuWQEALw_wcB
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2024, 06:45:58 AM »
I had the Rode WS8 screens, and they performed quite poorly for me in strong wind gusts. The Movo WST50 do a far better job, at least for me.

I think a lot has to do with the mics you are using. My outdoor mics tend to be my CM3s which are extremely wind-sensitive.
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2024, 08:15:29 AM »
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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2024, 02:10:16 PM »
I had the Rode WS8 screens, and they performed quite poorly for me in strong wind gusts. The Movo WST50 do a far better job, at least for me.

I think a lot has to do with the mics you are using. My outdoor mics tend to be my CM3s which are extremely wind-sensitive.

I did have an issue with 40 mph gusts with torrential rain and hail which smoked my RRE set at Red Rocks. I doubt any windescreen would have been able to tame that kind of element. I live in the mountain west frequently record shows in Wyoming, Utah, Colorado where weather/wind is quite volatile and changes on a dime. I havent had many issues using hypers with these. I do have sources.

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Re: Windscreen Advice
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2024, 07:27:51 PM »
I had the Rode WS8 screens, and they performed quite poorly for me in strong wind gusts. The Movo WST50 do a far better job, at least for me.

I think a lot has to do with the mics you are using. My outdoor mics tend to be my CM3s which are extremely wind-sensitive.

I did have an issue with 40 mph gusts with torrential rain and hail which smoked my RRE set at Red Rocks. I doubt any windescreen would have been able to tame that kind of element. I live in the mountain west frequently record shows in Wyoming, Utah, Colorado where weather/wind is quite volatile and changes on a dime. I havent had many issues using hypers with these. I do have sources.

Please understand I'm not discounting your experience at all. But since you mentioned 40 mph gusts, that's what made me move on to the Movo's. This was years ago when I did a lot of marching band competitions, and the wind would whip through the stadiums in mid-November.
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