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Offline Thelonius

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DAT transfer equipment 2024
« on: June 21, 2024, 10:12:36 AM »
Hello,
My apologies for asking a question that no doubt has been answered many times in the distant past, however, I’m a bit behind the times.

Circa 2000 I recorded many jams with a friend on a Sony D100. I also recorded several concerts around the same time. I transferred many of these to digital by going D>A>D back in the day, however, I would like to recapture and master these recordings as the technology available to do so is vastly superior to what I had then. Additionally, I would strongly prefer to capture bit perfect.

I have found my D100 (which has been wrapped in plastic in a box for 20ish years, annd I hope works) and my tapes.
I have my power chord for it but I will need to find the digital adapter to try to send coax out. I do still need to confirm that this even functions but it saw light use so I expect it will work.

I would be recording into my baby face pro interface (optical in) to my Mac or usb to mixpre 6ii. Therefore, in addition to the coax adapter for the D100, I would need to convert coax to toslink or usb prior to recording with these set ups.

My questions are:
1) Does this approach make sense, or should I be looking for an old used Dat player that can output to toslink directly?
2) What approach would you recommend to do this as cleanly and efficiently as possible?
3) Is there anything else I should be considering when setting up to make this as efficient and effective as possible?

I am primarily concerned with getting an accurate digital file. I have tools for EQ, separating tracks etc. once this is done (though open to software suggestions if there is something that would make this most efficient as I currently use Logic Pro X and vinyl studio pro for these purposes today and, while functional, they may not be best suited to the task).

I am would prefer to keep this under 3-400 US (I’m in Canada) but have some flexibility if there is a clearly superior solution.

Thank you very much in advance for any suggestions!


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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2024, 10:49:10 AM »
https://www.adorama.com/us1739264.html

get that, a compact flash card, and a 75ohm rca to bnc cable. 
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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2024, 11:03:07 AM »
https://www.adorama.com/us1739264.html

get that, a compact flash card, and a 75ohm rca to bnc cable.

Why exactly do you recommend this?

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2024, 11:04:39 AM »
taking the computer out of thre transfer equation makes things a LOT less complicated.  Just hit play on the dat and record on the sd702.  And for $250, the 702 is a no brainer.
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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2024, 11:33:56 AM »
+1 on taking the computer out of the process--use another device to record to an SD Card, then transfer that to the computer using a card reader.  There are many DAT recorders on eBay right now for under $300.  I happen to like Tascam DA20 and DA30. 
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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2024, 11:36:11 AM »
Confused...I don't think the D100 is a DAT recorder?

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2024, 12:03:37 PM »
Hi everyone, thank you for the feedback.

The D100 is, in fact, a DAT Walkman and much requires a proprietary adapter to output in digital (coax only).

I am leaning towards replacing the DAT as this would eliminate the need for the proprietary adaptor (freeing up budget) while providing redundancy in the DAT machine as it would be very hard to get one serviced in Canada at this point. I will spare you the rant around costs to ship things in and out of the US for taxes, brokerage fees, etc. Suffice to say this becomes material quickly). Additionally, going with the SD would be a third recorded and still require I find and purchase the d100 any proprietary adapter.

I can find some DAT machines in Canada around my price range that have optical out which would allow me to record to my Mac and keep a digital chain. I would prefer to record to my mixpre 6, however, the only digital input is usb and I would prefer to not add a converter to the mix. I hadn’t considered this use case when I purchased it.

Is there any reason risk in using a different brand of DAT for playback (there is a Luxman for sale in Montreal that has both optical and coax out)? Is an optical transfer as good as coax?

Thank you very much again. I really appreciate the ideas.

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2024, 12:44:20 PM »
TCD-D100 was the grey, consumer marketed version of the PCM-M1 DAT


It's got the 7 pin Sony digital connector like the TCD-D7 and TCD-D8 do. In the field, we would use "Oade" cables, a Y-shaped "dongle" made by Doug Oade, to chain decks together digitally using these ports.


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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2024, 12:51:59 PM »
Folks, thank you all for the ideas. I just realized that I have an Edirol R44 that I use to capture vinyl and it has a coax in so all I need to do is find a 7pin to coax cable.

I see some options on eBay and Coresound has options on their page so I should be good to go here.

Thank you again to everyone for the help with this, it’s great appreciated!

I finally get to hear my CSNY 2002 tapes in all their glory. :)

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2024, 01:47:33 PM »
Folks, thank you all for the ideas. I just realized that I have an Edirol R44 that I use to capture vinyl and it has a coax in so all I need to do is find a 7pin to coax cable.

I see some options on eBay and Coresound has options on their page so I should be good to go here.

Thank you again to everyone for the help with this, it’s great appreciated!

I finally get to hear my CSNY 2002 tapes in all their glory. :)
I *may* have a 7 pin to coax OADE cable in my stuff. I found it a few months ago and wondered if anyone could use it.
PM me later tonight or this weekend to remind me to look. although, I am USA based. PM me and we'll figure How much it might cost to ship to you?
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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2024, 01:51:03 PM »
It doesn't look like you're currently going in that direction, but you can't go digital in on the mixpre using the usb without a computer in the middle.  It's not a host port.

That edirol is a solid option.  Good luck with your search for a 7 pin.
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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2024, 02:11:37 PM »

I *may* have a 7 pin to coax OADE cable in my stuff. I found it a few months ago and wondered if anyone could use it.
PM me later tonight or this weekend to remind me to look. although, I am USA based. PM me and we'll figure How much it might cost to ship to you?
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That would be great! I will PM you over the weekend. Thank you!

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2024, 02:13:18 PM »
It doesn't look like you're currently going in that direction, but you can't go digital in on the mixpre using the usb without a computer in the middle.  It's not a host port.

That edirol is a solid option.  Good luck with your search for a 7 pin.

Yeah, I assumed that the usb is only for a usb interface scenario. I appreciate the heads up though.

Thanks again for the feedback, I really appreciate it!

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2024, 04:44:50 PM »
I have a D100 DAT deck as well.  I recently got this 7 pin to coax cable from Oade to facilitate an all digital transfer.

https://www.oade.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=130

I have a soundcard with a optical in so I also picked up an Digital Coaxial to Optical Converter box so I could go directly into that input.

It's been working great.

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Re: DAT transfer equipment 2024
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2024, 09:00:03 PM »
Thank you, that’s a great option!   :cheers:

 

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