Topic: to share or not to share

[mrfender]

^ All of the bands mentioned (Stones, Floyd, Dylan, Queen) are older bands, likely with older fans. As anyone with parents can attest, some of them don't adapt to new technology very well. Many are probably unaware of the bit torrent sites or LMA and also have problems dealing with them.

No, the big "legacy" bands are savy enough (or at least employ staff that are) to know about downloading and sites that are promoting it.  Most are not going to raise a big fuss on sites that trade in unofficial live recordings from 30-60 years ago however they will contact the site if they see someone trying to profit from those recordings or if official material was being shared.

[aaronji]

I wasn't talking about the bands. I was talking about the fans, some of whom subsidize the bootleggers...

[mrfender]

I wasn't talking about the bands. I was talking about the fans, some of whom subsidize the bootleggers...

Ahh, got it.  On that point I absolutely agree.

[aaronji]

My wording wasn't exactly clear...

I am always astonished by the number of people that come up to me to ask if/where recordings will be posted for LMA bands. I point them towards the site and they can't believe the wealth of recordings available for free.

[roffels]

^ Yes, indeed. Some of my best recordings, including several that I have listened to a gazillion times, live only in my computer/NAS, my portable player, and my wife's car (burned to CD, no less). Heck, I just recently made a (in my opinion) superb recording of a band that has close to 1500 shows on LMA, but was asked not to share it. Disappointing, to be sure, but it is what it is...

I've made some exceptions for folks that I know I can trust. Like I've become friends and often tape with someone that used to be in an "indie famous" artists' band, still does work with him by making music videos and occasionally sharing songwriting. He knows the drill. I'd feel kind of dumb not trusting him with that stuff. Otherwise, same, just on my harddrive.

[daspyknows]

I used to share much more widely but when something is up for sale 48 hours after posting on Dime or a Japanese bootleg site is reviewing the pressed silver of my recording with my name attached I dont really need that.  I share withing a circle of 1000 people or so which is enough for me.   

Last Rolling Stones tour I made  a decision to restrict sharing further because I found that even in my small sharing circle my recordi gs were ending up as silvers.  I shared "digitally watermarked" versions to those who asked and a year later none of my Rolling Stones recordings was making some scumbag money.  Some people don't care if that happens but at this point I do.

[beroti_music]

I completely understand.
I stealth mostly major acts and sometimes smaller acts. I dont want my tapes to end up as silvers but the material I tape is perfect for that.

Decided to share my NIN recording from last weekend here https://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=207654.0
Let's see how that goes

[beroti_music]

For those who share video; what format do you share in and wich size?

I record in 4k these days. For personal use/archive I like to keep the quality as good as possible. This means I create MKV files that contain the video in the same quality I recorded in (usually around 100 mb/s) and flac audio. For a 90 minute concert the total size of the movie is around 65 GB this way.

Probably a bit too large for sharing. If sharing in 4k what bitrate should I use? Also, is it ok to share in HD?

[morst]

For those who share video; what format do you share in and wich size?

I record in 4k these days. For personal use/archive I like to keep the quality as good as possible. This means I create MKV files that contain the video in the same quality I recorded in (usually around 100 mb/s) and flac audio. For a 90 minute concert the total size of the movie is around 65 GB this way.

Probably a bit too large for sharing. If sharing in 4k what bitrate should I use? Also, is it ok to share in HD?

H.264 seems to be a good compromise for compression regarding file size vs quality. Or H.265 if that works.
https://www.videomaker.com/how-to/shooting/files-and-formats/h-264-the-most-popular-video-compression-standard/

In a nutshell

H.264, or MPEG-4 Part 10, is a video compression standard
H.264 is the most used codec in the field
As a video codec, H.264 works with multiple container formats such as .MP4 and .3GPP

[beroti_music]

Ok, but what filesize?

[morst]

Ok, but what filesize?

depends on length of program and screen size

[one8ung]

Like the "I tape shows to relive the memory and enjoy it myself" statement.

Secondary I like to share some of my recordings but know i can't control it despite the line i put in the info file "It is recorded with the intention of sharing it on the sites I select myself!"

Hope you share/trade some of your stuff, I know you got some shows i attended.

[u2_fly_2]

I have shared most of my recordings...both the ones with permission from the bands/artists and also the stealth tapes.

Even the smaller bands usually gets at least one or two happy people who appreciate that you recorded that particular band.

Lately I have stopped to tape these big stadium/big arenas kind of bands...because the security at those events are just getting harder to come by...and of all stadium rock bands I only like U2 these days...no more Guns N Roses or Rolling Stones for me...

I also tape alot more smaller bands with permission and that´s quite nice actually. They get a good tape and I get a tape that I can share if I wish.

I think you should share your recordings with other people because what will happen the day that we are no longer around? No one knows about your tapes if you don´t share them...but if you really don´t want to share them I respect that as well.

These days I usually put my tapes up on sites like: Live Music Archive, Dime, Traders Den, TS and Swisstransfer. In the past I also traded my recordings with other tapers and traders via one-to-one torrents.

Happy taping!

PS. If you still have your Public Service Broadcasting-tape...I am still interested :-)

[lpmaskman]

Sometimes I share stuff that aren't tradeworthy, but only audio. I don't share videos on ROIO sites because most of time end up some shitty reencoded BD and DVD versions of them (even stealing credit - yeah authoring fancy menus is your credit, but not going to the show and recording it), so videos are trading only.

[beroti_music]

Sometimes I share stuff that aren't tradeworthy, but only audio. I don't share videos on ROIO sites because most of time end up some shitty reencoded BD and DVD versions of them (even stealing credit - yeah authoring fancy menus is your credit, but not going to the show and recording it), so videos are trading only.

I understand. I've only shared about 10 videos or so and always by making direct copies for friends. Never on dimeadozen or so.

Maybe youtube is a future option.
How does it work for full concert videos? You need a special account to upload long videos?
Also, won't it be taken down if you upload a full concert of let's say Muse or some other popular band? Im a total youtube noob. Any help is welcome:)