Topic: would dpa ever make mini-cardioids..?

[macdaddy]

i sure wish they would - the cardioid equivalent to the 4060...

this would be great for larger venues, when you cant be right square up fob/dfc. i cant help but think my phish tapes from vegas would have come out better if the mics i used were cardioids and not omnis...

what do y'all think..?

[goose]

yes, i think they might... 

They have already made the headset version - the 4088

http://www.soundnetwork.co.uk/mini_cardi.htm

[goose]

just to one-up moke...

[macdaddy]

so you could run a pair of those..?

you can just take them off the headband, right..?

[goose]

I don't see why not, but not really sure how they attach to the headband. The mic is pretty firm at the end, so it is not likely the regular mic cable connecting to the capsule.

[macdaddy]

could i power a pair with my cs batt box..?

[BC]

I do not think these would be good for concert taping as they are meant for picking up vocals (example: from performing artists). The qualities that make a mic good for picking up clear vocals from someone on stage moving and jumping around are not the same that make a mic good for taping. I think these have a big presence region boost for sharpening up voices. In addition the bass rolls off quite high in frequency. I think there is very little in the way of low-end response from these microphones.

Take care,
Ben

[Tim]

not sure about the low end response but as far as a high frequency boost for vocals that could actually be useful for taping as higher frequencies dissipate at a greater rate than low frequencies. Doug Oade incorporated a switchable high frequency boost into the the m248 for just this reason. The Schoeps V caps and mk5 also incorporate a high frequency boost. I can't speak for these mics specifically but I don't think you should write them off just because of a high frequency boost.

[Tim]

looks like an ak50

[macdaddy]

that's an ugly rolloff graph, but can you consider bass from a pa in a concert hall far field..? i mean, i dont care where you are in a room when the mule plays, the bass is going to thump your chest. and that is the case in alot of these concerts. obviously there is no substitute for a field test, but i think that graph might be deceiving, esp. since "far" and "near"are a bit ambiguous, esp. given the purposes for which we would be using the mics...

i just hope they are as good as the omnis are -  i should think they would be the way to go for the larger concert venues, when placement is not ideal...

[zhianosatch]

i'm skeptical just looking at the response graph. you'd have to pray for just the right kind of imbalanced sound. i'm curious but not optimistic.







 ... not that i know anything

[Sean Gallemore]

the "roll-off" is 6dB @ 300 htz.  Compare that to the mp-2 that does 6 @ 80 and 160 htz.

[Tim]

i'm skeptical just looking at the response graph. you'd have to pray for just the right kind of imbalanced sound. i'm curious but not optimistic.







 ... not that i know anything

I feel the same way...

[zhianosatch]

i'm skeptical just looking at the response graph. you'd have to pray for just the right kind of imbalanced sound. i'm curious but not optimistic.







 ... not that i know anything

I feel the same way...

especially about not knowing anything, right?

ZING

[Tim]

precisely that