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Sonosax > V3?
« on: June 06, 2005, 06:07:16 AM »
of late, i've really been enjoying some tapes made with a v3 in the chain -- the oh so smooth sound has me hooked !

my rig at present runs with mk4 caps > kcy 250 cable > sonosax sx-m2/ls2 > d100. just wondering what you guys thought about slotting a v3 in the loop for shows were stealthing isn't a requirement. without picking up a pair of schoeps bodies, the sonosax preamp will need to stay, will this have any negative effect running pre the v3, if it's at all possible?

any thoughts most appreciated.

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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2005, 09:26:15 AM »
cbd runs SX-M2> V3 alot with his DPAs...


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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2005, 02:07:35 PM »
I also run MGs or Schoeps > M148 > V3... I have had no negative effects by running a pre in front of the V3. I also have not had the need to switch the internal 20db jumpers that Grace reccomends for running line in! I would run the AD1K if I could find one and they were still being worked on as I prefer that sound. The MME just doesn't have the AD1K sound!
I also like the option of choosing different flavors by either using the V3 as an AD only or pre/AD if needed, but I know it's not much of a choice for you. In your situation, I would look into a modSBM-1 as a V3 may be an overkill and you have no way of running the V3 without the Sax! Although I do like the V3 ANSR conversion, I'm still not sold on it at 24bit...
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2005, 02:08:37 AM »
wonder if mike grace ever considered doing just an AD.   (v1)???   

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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2005, 04:48:27 AM »
thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2005, 10:26:53 AM »
I have ran 480>148>v3 and loved it, the tape had effects of both the 148 and the v3

i have cxontemplated running a diff pre in front of the v3 on occassion, and if i were to choose one, it would be the sax>v3
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2005, 10:37:28 AM »
I have ran 480>148>v3 and loved it, the tape had effects of both the 148 and the v3

i have cxontemplated running a diff pre in front of the v3 on occassion, and if i were to choose one, it would be the sax>v3

well ima have a sax and a v2, so maybe thatll sound good.

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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2005, 10:43:03 AM »
I ran MKx > KCY > SX-M2/LS2 (0dB gain) > V3 for a Del McCoury show a while back.  The result:  a mighty fine recording.  But not your typical scenario - gorgeous theater, true sound re-inforcement, ran ~65dB gain on the V3.  I found the SX-M2/LS2 quite a bit noisier than the CMC6 bodies, but for most shows where you're running closer to 30dB gain, I don't think it'd be a problem.
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2005, 11:05:52 AM »
I ran MKx > KCY > SX-M2/LS2 (0dB gain) > V3 for a Del McCoury show a while back.  The result:  a mighty fine recording.  But not your typical scenario - gorgeous theater, true sound re-inforcement, ran ~65dB gain on the V3.  I found the SX-M2/LS2 quite a bit noisier than the CMC6 bodies, but for most shows where you're running closer to 30dB gain, I don't think it'd be a problem.

Brian, I think you forgot to mention the super high noise floor when running the v3 that hot.  ;)

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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2005, 05:06:42 PM »
over the past year or so i haven't found myself in that many situations where stealthing has been required, so am thinking of moving from the sonosax/kcy and going the kc5/cmc6xt/v3 route. depending, of course, on the dollars required to do this.
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2005, 08:34:00 PM »
thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2005, 08:53:45 PM »
XTs have a flatter, extended, frequency response when compared to the cmc6-U bodies.

edit:  just think of it as the cmc7 ;)

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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2005, 12:03:04 AM »
thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.
What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?

there's a school of thought that even if you are not explicitly hearing the frequencies they are still moving air and affecting what you hear....

same idea as buying mics that go down to 20hz I suppose
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2005, 12:11:56 AM »
XTs have a flatter, extended, frequency response when compared to the cmc6-U bodies.

edit:  just think of it as the cmc7 ;)

Actually the CMC6-U bodies have more flat response (CMC6-U top/CMC6XT bottom):
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Re: Sonosax > V3?
« Reply #14 on: June 08, 2005, 12:23:55 AM »
thanks for the info guys -- looks like i'll have to pick up a pair of cmc6's if i'm ever going to go the v3 route.

What's the point of the CMCXT's, unless you're recording for your dog I don't see the point?

there's a school of thought that even if you are not explicitly hearing the frequencies they are still moving air and affecting what you hear....

same idea as buying mics that go down to 20hz I suppose

On which playback system?  I understand what you're saying, perhaps it's true, but I don't know of anyone that has a playback system that can reproduce anything above 20kHz-22.5kHz.  What media would this be played back on?  There's a whole chain of equipment that you'd need to improve upon to even accomplish reproduction of that range, from the media > "super tweeters".
« Last Edit: April 27, 2006, 12:37:05 PM by Brian Skalinder »
Maybe a couple of small scratches, but thats because these mics are chick magnets.
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