Topic: New Venue need advice

[Colin Liston]

There is a new venue in town, and it looks like taping could be a pain.

Basically the room is a rectangle  100' x 50', with the stage on the long side

The 8 PA speakers are placed like this:
     2 speakers on each short side and 4 speakers along the long back wall
 
With the PA the way it is, where would you put your mics and facing which way? 
Since most of the sound would be coming from behind me if I was facing the stage.

The place looks something like this:

                      _____  Stage______

 X                                                                               X 

                                                                                                       
 X                                                                                X 
                                                                                                       
         
                 X              X                    X              X


X=speaker

Any ideas?

[Brian]

do you have access to two fig. of 8 mikes for blumlein?  that *might* work. probably not though considering it
looks like the venue is going to have all kinds of phase issues. 

who was the dumbass that installed that system?  are they doing surround?

[fozzy]

Looks like a dance club setup, are you sure they don't bring in a different PA for Live acts. 

[SuperDave]

Stack tape it and use a couple of j-disc to keep the reflections away from the rear of the microphones?

That's a really weird setup.

[Colin Liston]

The place is set up for stand up comedy.  I was at their first rock show the other night and the band didn't have their own PA so they used the house's PA.  
There are a couple of bands coming DDBB and Papa Grows Funk in a few weeks and I have no idea if they will have their own PA systems of if they will use the house system.

I am hoping they bring their own but wanted to be prepared....

[fozzy]

As far as I know those bands don't travel w/ their own PA, Most club type acts don't.  The venue needs to Pony up and build a real sound system for Concerts if they want to have live acts.  Either buy their own or contract out w/ a local company.  I'd say it's about 50/50 here in austin as to what clubs have thier own PA and which ones contract out the Local Sound Reinforcement companies(bonus is that you can generally get a FOH & Monitor engineer w/ the gear).

[greenone]

Wonder how split omnis would sound in that setup?

[TNJazz]

I would imagine that for live bands they won't use all the PA speakers.  I would expect them to use the ones to the sides of the stage without all the other stuff behind you.

That is a strange setup though.  And here I was thinking that 3rd & Lindsley in Nashville was a weird setup.  This one is way beyond that...

[Steve J]

Looks like a dance club setup, are you sure they don't bring in a different PA for Live acts. 

This is what I was thinking, too. I've seen this kind of setup at a couple HOB's; but the venues only used the speaker setup at either side of the stage during the live performance and the rest of the speakers for moo'd music between sets.

[greenone]

moo'd music

Is that the kind of music cows put on the stereo when they're feeling romantic?

[bluegrass_brad]

Alot of bands that tour and have a decent rep frequently have a local or regional company bring in a PA in places like that.  When I toured with YMSB that is what we always did, sometimes we would have the same company bring in PA for three or four shows in a row if they were able to do it.  Smaller bands sometimes cant afford that and get stuck using the house PA (As you have seen at this club)