MK 5 vs MK4.Mk2

[stober]

Has anybody here ever compared the MK5 vs MK4,MK2? I have been thinking about getting the mk5 but I would like to hear some feedback about what others think about their experiences using it.I know the MK 5 has a slight high frequence emphasis compared to the MK4,MK2 .I have run DPA's for the last three years but now I have no mics so the mk5 was what I have been looking at.I have always wanted some omnis to run outdoors.If anybody has any sources of both a MK5 and a MK4 from the same show or has any hands on experiences then let me know.Thanks Brent

[SonicSound]

I should have done some direct comp's before I sold my MK4's.  I really enjoy having the flexibility in one capsule and it reducing the number of caps in my bag.  I am also interested to hear what peoples thoughts/ears are on the MK4V's MK2H or S's vs. MK5's

[RebelRebel]

Ive been looking into schoeps some, (just the mk2s ) and asking questions of them quite a bit for other folks. THe MK4v, MK2h and MK2s all have a high frequency boost. The MK4v was of course designed for vocal applications. The MK2h has a less pronounced HF emphasis, and the bump begins I think an octave(or half octave?)  higher than its (S) counterpart. For this reason, on paper, it looks as though the MK2h would be more suited for our/taping- mostly- at- a- distance- purposes. I havent heard the mk4v, but Bernhard(my engineer buddy at schoeps) said that the mk4v, and mk2s get more thin sounding or "brittle" the farther away from the source you place them, as well as having the same thinness  problems off-axis..If it were myself, based on the advice of Bernhard and reading the graphs and doing some research, id go with the normal mk4, and the MK2h...Ill probably pick up a pair of mk2s only for choral/orchestra work here. They seem to be popular choices in the classical location recording scene, and what ive heard of them I really like(mk2, ). I guess a lot of people here like the "v" pairs so this makes all suggestions from Bernhard useless I suppose.

I should have done some direct comp's before I sold my MK4's.  I really enjoy having the flexibility in one capsule and it reducing the number of caps in my bag.  I am also interested to hear what peoples thoughts/ears are on the MK4V's MK2H or S's vs. MK5's

[eric.B]

ahh they all sound the same to me..   

[jnorman34]

i owned a pair of the schoeps cmc64s.  sold em and now use DPA 4011s, 4006s, and akg c481s, all of which IMHO kick the schoeps mk4 caps around the block.  OTOH, the schoeps mk41's are fantastic caps for ORTF and NOS work in live venues - pretty hard to beat with anything.  in a more controlled setting (studio applications), the mk2 omni is also wonderful.  the schoeps fig 8 caps (Forgot the mk #) make a near perfect blumlein pair, and ranks right up there with with anything i can think of.

[Swanny]

I was having the same questions. I decided to go with the MK5's because I like having less caps. If you someday wanted to run a surround set-up you may want both sets of caps omni pair for the front and cards ortf facing rear. That would involve 2 more bodies  another preamp and a 744. You would also be able to loan out a set and still have somthing to tape with. As far as sound I say schoeps sound good

[SonicSound]

OTOH, the schoeps mk41's are fantastic caps for ORTF and NOS work in live venues - pretty hard to beat with anything.

IMO DINA is the way to go w/ the 41's

[jnorman34]

sonicsound - you are quite right that DIN is a great setup for the 41s, when you are trying to track from a greater distance.  most of my work is much closer than most tapers can acheive, as i do chamber and classical, and always have access to wherever i need to setup  when micing on the stage (i am usually about 8 feet out, and 8-10 feet up), DIN is too tight, and ORTF or NOS give a broader LR image. 

[SonicSound]

sonicsound - you are quite right that DIN is a great setup for the 41s, when you are trying to track from a greater distance.  most of my work is much closer than most tapers can acheive, as i do chamber and classical, and always have access to wherever i need to setup  when micing on the stage (i am usually about 8 feet out, and 8-10 feet up), DIN is too tight, and ORTF or NOS give a broader LR image. 

Interesting - I have not run 41's that close. What was the reason in selected the 41's from that distance?

[souper]

I agree with Swanny, and that carrying fewer capsules would be preferable.  Assuming Schoeps caps sound similar (why would they not?), I would go for the MK5 over the multiple single caps.