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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2005, 03:49:06 PM »
Will do...
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2005, 04:05:45 PM »
I ran this combo for YEARS and loved pretty much everything... may I suggest a MOD SBM-1 at the end of that chain to make it the perfect setup!
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2005, 04:07:01 PM »
Quote from: Mike Sarnovsky on December 14, 2005, 04:05:45 PM
I ran this combo for YEARS and loved pretty much everything... may I suggest a MOD SBM-1 at the end of that chain to make it the perfect setup!

I'm running the Edirol R-1 as the recorder, which does the built-in ADC (which is really great IMO so far)... so no need for the sbm-1
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2005, 07:41:04 PM »
Ok, so I decided to go for the neumann's... we'll see how they compare to 393's and mbho's in our little test next month. I'll keep everyone posted. Peace.
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2005, 07:51:46 PM »
Quote from: aberg83 on December 14, 2005, 03:37:53 PM
I'm talking to Sanjay about he and I running a km184 vs. mbho603/200 vs. akg 393 comparison at moe in Syracuse next month... we both have essentially the same pre, so it would be a good test.
great idea
this show is going to have a nice group there
i will be there with daniel doodwin too
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2005, 07:53:08 PM »
Quote from: aberg83 on December 14, 2005, 07:41:04 PM
Ok, so I decided to go for the neumann's... we'll see how they compare to 393's and mbho's in our little test next month. I'll keep everyone posted. Peace.


+T for the #1 Canadian gearslut.  My head is spinning with all the gear changes!

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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2005, 08:02:42 PM »
Quote from: willndmb on December 14, 2005, 07:51:46 PM
Quote from: aberg83 on December 14, 2005, 03:37:53 PM
I'm talking to Sanjay about he and I running a km184 vs. mbho603/200 vs. akg 393 comparison at moe in Syracuse next month... we both have essentially the same pre, so it would be a good test.
great idea
this show is going to have a nice group there
i will be there with daniel doodwin too


doodwin.. that's something my kids would call me (I teach highshool science.. Mostly freshman)  :D
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2005, 08:31:14 PM »
i think the 184's are an overall more detailed mic, but the 393>mp2 is a hard combo to beat IMO, close up or back in an arena, its a solid combo

I havent heard enuf 184>mp2 tapes to make a SOLID statement so.....
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2005, 08:53:55 PM »
Quote from: Bean on December 14, 2005, 08:31:14 PM
i think the 184's are an overall more detailed mic, but the 393>mp2 is a hard combo to beat IMO, close up or back in an arena, its a solid combo

I havent heard enuf 184>mp2 tapes to make a SOLID statement so.....

Yeah, I guess I'll be trying to answer some of those questions with these comparisons in the next month or so.
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2005, 08:57:15 PM »
If anyone wants to lend us another MP-2/mixpre/fp-24 and jb3 we can test more mics in this comparison

I have some phantomed AT933's we could test.
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2005, 09:41:11 PM »
Quote from: Philippe Rwanda a.k.a Sanjay on December 14, 2005, 08:57:15 PM
If anyone wants to lend us another MP-2/mixpre/fp-24 and jb3 we can test more mics in this comparison

I have some phantomed AT933's we could test.

Yeah, that would be pretty awesome. Run ho's, 184's and 393's simultaneously into 3 mp-2/fp-24/mixpre rigs....

I might be able to get my hands on a jb3 for that.
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2005, 09:57:03 PM »
I used to run the 184s, and, imo, if you can swing the extra cash, get the 140s. Changable capsules notwithstanding, I think that the 140s are a step up from the 184s - I think the 140s have smoother mids/highs and a tighter, more detailed bottom end. When I sold my 184s I was happy to see them go, but the 140s have me stoked on Neumanns again. ;D 8)
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2005, 10:20:03 PM »
Quote from: cmc64 on December 14, 2005, 09:57:03 PM
I used to run the 184s, and, imo, if you can swing the extra cash, get the 140s. Changable capsules notwithstanding, I think that the 140s are a step up from the 184s - I think the 140s have smoother mids/highs and a tighter, more detailed bottom end. When I sold my 184s I was happy to see them go, but the 140s have me stoked on Neumanns again. ;D 8)

One step at a time!  Let aberg run the 184's for at least a week or two...

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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2005, 10:21:36 PM »
I was always under the impression that the 184 and the 140 were pretty much identical, except the 140's had interchangable caps, and could be run actively.  Learn something new everyday...
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Re: Neumann km184 > MP-2 vs. AKG 393 > MP-2
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2005, 10:22:31 PM »
Quote from: aberg83 on December 14, 2005, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: Philippe Rwanda a.k.a Sanjay on December 14, 2005, 08:57:15 PM
If anyone wants to lend us another MP-2/mixpre/fp-24 and jb3 we can test more mics in this comparison

I have some phantomed AT933's we could test.

Yeah, that would be pretty awesome. Run ho's, 184's and 393's simultaneously into 3 mp-2/fp-24/mixpre rigs....

I might be able to get my hands on a jb3 for that.

My vote is a comparison between: 184's, 393's (or better yet, 391's), and AT853 (or AT933 with 853C caps), or SP C4 (cards).  Those are the most popular types and I have not seen much comparison, in particular between AKG300's and CP C4's.

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