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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #180 on: March 18, 2006, 08:08:44 PM »
that "auto shut down" feature of the Marantz decks is nice.
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #181 on: March 18, 2006, 08:48:43 PM »
Thanks for the insightful review phr.  +T
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #182 on: March 19, 2006, 05:50:49 AM »
Quote from: phr on March 18, 2006, 07:26:10 PM
SD had a 1GB limit that somehow got extended to 2GB.  Most older devices will NOT accept cards larger than 1GB.  The upgrade from 2GB to 4GB needed a hardware change.  If Edirol mentioned a 2GB maximum in the R09, assume that they mean it until they say otherwise.  It's not like CF where "2GB maximum" (former spec for the PMD660) meant "they didn't have a 4GB card in the shop and haven't tested it yet".  4GB SD cards are incompatible with older equipment and my guess is that if an upgrade is possible, it will require sending the unit to the shop for a hardware mod.  Nonetheless, 4GB isn't so terrible-- even at 24/48 it's over 5 hours of recording, and in mp3 it's near-unlimited. 

What I really want to know and nobody has said is how long you can record without a battery swap (assume two 2500 mAH AA NiMH cells).  With the PMD660, I can record for 6+ hours (maybe almost 8 hours if I push it) on four AA's, and in fact I do that all the time.  I'd like it they made some kind of accessory battery pack for these things like some digicams have, that held 8 AA's or whatever, allowing 12+ hours nonstop recording (in mp3).  Yes, I really do want to do that, at all-day or all-night events.  The PMD660 is not the greatest machine I can imagine, but its battery runtime is pretty good, at least double the R-1's from what I understand.

The R-1 manual also said that the recording could get screwed up if the recorder wasn't shut off properly, i.e. if you just let it run til the batteries crap out, the file can get clobbered.  I hope they fixed that with the R09.  This is one of the reasons I bought the PMD660 instead of the R-1.  I've let the batteries in the PMD660 crap out many times and nothing bad has happened, the file just ends when the power ran out.

R1 can record for at least 6 hours on a pair of fresh lithiums.  I've done around 4 hours field recording in one night and the batteries still had alot of juice left.  There's definate truth in the shut off issue though.  I had one instance where my R1 fell off the table it was on and hit the floor and the recording was lost.  So I guess you have to be kind of careful when using Edirol stuff.
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #183 on: March 19, 2006, 10:06:32 AM »
otoh, just last week I had my R-1 batteries die (I watched it shut off - I was waiting for a good time in the set to do a swap), and the file was perfectly fine.  I was ready to swap when the batteries died, so I only missed prolly 20secs or so of music.   I run it on Energizer 2500mAh's, but I got some new batteries (exact same ones) and it records much longer on new batteries...

I personally would consider the inability to use a 4gb SD card as a deal breaker for me.  I know that if I had to swap out 2gb SD cards that I would lose one of them.  Its only a matter of time, and I know my weaknesses.
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #184 on: March 20, 2006, 07:49:41 AM »
Quote from: phr on March 18, 2006, 07:26:10 PM
Nonetheless, 4GB isn't so terrible-- even at 24/48 it's over 5 hours of recording, and in mp3 it's near-unlimited. 


Actually, at 24/48 you can run just over 4 hours with a 4GB card.  Hopefully not many of us are considering using MP3 for recording  ;)

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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #185 on: March 21, 2006, 12:19:07 PM »
Anyone have recommendations on where to pre-order? Found a few sites out there, amazing that some don't even mention that the product is not in stock and let you think you're buying one right now. I emailed 8th Street, said they'd have some in first week of April. Not sure how reliable that is.


edit: just called 8thStreet - they are now saying "end of April"
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #186 on: March 25, 2006, 05:59:06 AM »
Quote from: jdawg on March 21, 2006, 12:19:07 PM
edit: just called 8thStreet - they are now saying "end of April"

For the Europeans on here, that's also what the guy at www.thomann.de told me yesterday, at least as far as availability in Germany is concerned.
On a side note, their price for the R-09 is EUR 419, which is actually more than the R1. (Wasn't the R-09 supposed to be less expensive?)
I'll probably order one of these. If it sounds as good as the R1, then this is the perfect replacement for my D100 and a great stealth recorder.

edit: according to Edirol, shipping will start in mid-May, at least in Germany...   

edit #2: I pre-ordered one!  8)
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #187 on: April 02, 2006, 06:32:50 PM »
I've seen a couple of sites quoting 5/5/2006 availability.

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--EDIR09
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EDIR09

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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #188 on: April 03, 2006, 03:38:43 PM »
So what's the story on this? I'm really wondering if it will record to 4 gig cards and if it will auto-split at the 2 gig max. I really want to get into 24 bit stealthing.
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #189 on: April 03, 2006, 04:02:37 PM »
http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1130&Itemid=44

"Phantom power: A controversial element of the MicroTrack was its inability to put out a full 48V phantom power for mics. Not a huge issue given the target market, but Edirol said they have true 48V phantom power on the R-09. That spec isn't on the Roland website, though, so the jury's still out."
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #190 on: April 03, 2006, 07:54:22 PM »
I'm thinking of snagging a 2gb card before our dollar drops even further and bumps the local price up.

Would a Kingston Elite Pro, Secure Digital Card, 2GB, 50X be OK,
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=345218

or would I be better off with a faster

Kingston Ultimate, Secure Digital Card, 2GB Speed Rating** - 23MB/sec. read rate; 133X / 20MB/sec. write rate card?
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=341420
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #191 on: April 03, 2006, 08:28:24 PM »
I just ordered my R-9 from Music 123 ( I have an account)..............I ordered my R-1 months before it was released...Might as well continue the tradition..........I hope I see it before August........hehehehehe
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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #192 on: April 03, 2006, 10:03:30 PM »
i have no idea what the New Zealand > US$ coversion rate is, and i'm too lazy to look it up at the moment. but you can get a 133x Corsair 2GB SD card for US$50 + shipping after mail-in rebate at zipsoomfly.com.

i'm so tempted to order a couple of those 2GB SD cards, but then i'd be forced to order an R-09...  ;D



Quote from: Ziggz on April 03, 2006, 07:54:22 PM
I'm thinking of snagging a 2gb card before our dollar drops even further and bumps the local price up.

Would a Kingston Elite Pro, Secure Digital Card, 2GB, 50X be OK,
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=345218

or would I be better off with a faster

Kingston Ultimate, Secure Digital Card, 2GB Speed Rating** - 23MB/sec. read rate; 133X / 20MB/sec. write rate card?
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=341420

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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #193 on: April 03, 2006, 10:12:45 PM »
Human greeeeeed.....  ;D

Quote from: hyperplane on April 03, 2006, 10:03:30 PM
i have no idea what the New Zealand > US$ coversion rate is, and i'm too lazy to look it up at the moment. but you can get a 133x Corsair 2GB SD card for US$50 + shipping after mail-in rebate at zipsoomfly.com.

i'm so tempted to order a couple of those 2GB SD cards, but then i'd be forced to order an R-09...  ;D



Quote from: Ziggz on April 03, 2006, 07:54:22 PM
I'm thinking of snagging a 2gb card before our dollar drops even further and bumps the local price up.

Would a Kingston Elite Pro, Secure Digital Card, 2GB, 50X be OK,
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=345218

or would I be better off with a faster

Kingston Ultimate, Secure Digital Card, 2GB Speed Rating** - 23MB/sec. read rate; 133X / 20MB/sec. write rate card?
http://www.ascent.co.nz/ProductSpecification.aspx?ItemID=341420

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Re: Edirol R-09
« Reply #194 on: April 04, 2006, 01:50:35 PM »
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