Berliner CM-33 mics?

[kenirob]

Wow very nice

[EarlyMorningRain]

I'm running the Berliner CM-33's with a Littlebox and the results have been outstanding.

do you have any pics of this setup that you could share?

[yug du nord]

^our buddy dallman runs the CM-33......   loves em.......  and I agree, they sound great!

[EarlyMorningRain]

oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox

[yug du nord]

oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox

always lookin for some eye-candy.....   

[Neilyboy]

Would be a nice portable rig though. too bad they couldnt run off the 12-16v the tinybox pushes..

neil

[NSL]

oh I knew that, just wanted some sexy pics of them bundled with a littlebox

I'm out of town right now, give me a few days and i'll set them up and take a few pictures. 

[NSL]

Forgot all about this.  I'll try to get some pictures up tonight or tomorrow. 

[jbell]

Are these built in the same factory as the Avantone ck1, MXL 603, Nady CM-90, CAD GXL1200???

[Chuck]

Read this thread...

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/old-new-product-alerts-moved-out-into-main-forums/82712-berliner-cm-33-compare-km84.html

...poster dcohen Technical Support and Sales for Berliner joined the discussion.

[Javier Cinakowski]

whoa, that gearsluts thread reminds me of Karma Mics and sE electronics going at it...

Is the Behringer a terrible mic?  The Berliner sounds good to me...

[illconditioned]

Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

  Richard

[goodcooker]

Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

  Richard

Richard that's goofy. What differentiates it from other mics is the sound. Have you used them?

These Berliner mics are light years ahead of the Studio Projects C4.

Here's a show recorded with them
http://www.archive.org/details/um2010-06-05.berlinerCM33.flac16

[illconditioned]

Yeah, the Berliner *may* sound OK, but there is really nothing to differentiate this from all the other Chinese SDC mics.

Really, I would trust Studio Projects, ADK, etc more than these guys.  At least they have a known product.  Maybe not great, but there is a name, and lots of people have used them.

  Richard

Richard that's goofy. What differentiates it from other mics is the sound. Have you used them?

These Berliner mics are light years ahead of the Studio Projects C4.

Here's a show recorded with them
http://www.archive.org/details/um2010-06-05.berlinerCM33.flac16

OK, maybe I'm being too harsh.  I have not used them.

What I meant to say is, they are *likely* to be Chinese made mics, like many many others (ADK, Studio Projecs, etc).  We do not know whether they are better.  We don't know if there are any unique parts of the engineering or manufacture, or if the measured specifications are better.  I contrast these with companies that manufacture their own capsules, such as Neuman, Beyerdynamic, AKG, etc, where we have reasons for preferring one brand over another, for example for the sound, capsules, or accessories.

Now, if someone at Berliner said something about the actual capsule manufacture, such as a unique diaphragm material/construction, engineering, etc, I might believe them.

I guess time will tell.  If these sound significantly better in a side-by-side test (studio or field recording) that would be interesting.

  Richard

[Javier Cinakowski]

"These Berliner mics are light years ahead of the Studio Projects C4."

Now that is a goofy staement.  I've tested the c4 against some wonderful mics, they hold their own.  From the samples I've listened too, these berliners are no akg480.    I've rarely heard a pair of mics that are "light years" better than anything.  I'd be willing to bet that you couldn't pick out a berliner recording if it were on the same stand as a pair of C4's.  I'd even be willing to bet that a cheap pair ok karma k10's would not be distinguishable.  This is esspecially true for pa concert recordings. 

I think we have another "discount mic of the month" on our hands here.  Its happened with c4's, pelusos and oktava's before that.  They are all a good value,but none if them are light years better than each other and none are going to replace akg or scheops.  There is no doubt that these chinese mics will depreciate like a used car over time. You will see the real mics hold their value.  This is a better indication of performance and value than any comment on taperssection.