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Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« on: June 28, 2006, 12:15:50 PM »
Have a show I taped in 24 bit.  Tracked it and flac'd it so its ready to be seeded somewhere.  I also took the 24 bit show and dithered it down for a 16 bit copy.  Which should I seed?  I know everyone is going to scream seed the 16 bit and I understand all the reasons why but then what happens to the 24 biot version.  I'm thinking if I seed the 16 bit version first then there will be no interest in the 24 bit version. 

Anyone have any thoughts?

Too bad there is not a 24 bit only torrent site.


EDIT TO ADD:  Bandwidth is not a problem for me when seeding so that particular issue is a non-issue for me right now.
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2006, 12:20:26 PM »
Start the seed for the 24bit a week or two before the 16
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2006, 12:30:49 PM »
Anyone have any thoughts?

I say do 'em at the same time...maybe 16 bit first, but I wouldn't wait a week to seed 16 bit. Most people don't even do 24 bit yet and unless it's a band that draws alot of attention, it might not even be worth seeding the 24bit at all. I wouldn't worry about "what will become of the 24 bit version" because folks who want 24 bit will wait for it...then again, I'm an idiot about this stuff.
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2006, 01:13:10 PM »
seed which ever one you want first if people don't like or can't handle on br over the other then too bad...
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2006, 01:15:12 PM »
seed which ever one you want first if people don't like or can't handle on br over the other then too bad...

What he said.  FWIW, I usually seed the 16-bit first.  Since there's more interest, and the fileset is smaller, other seeders pop up more quickly (than the other way around), at which point I switch over to 24-bit.
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2006, 01:35:03 PM »
I usually seed the 16 then 24, for shorter shows, both at the same time.
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2006, 02:24:10 PM »
plus if you seed the 16 first you won't have 100 people asking "how do I burn this to cd, or to my ipod?"     ;D
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 03:24:29 PM »
Have a show I taped in 24 bit.  Tracked it and flac'd it so its ready to be seeded somewhere.  I also took the 24 bit show and dithered it down for a 16 bit copy.  Which should I seed? 

To me, it depends not on the bitrate, but the sampling rate... 48K/96K, etc.

Seeding a 24 bit/44.1 recording at 24 bit makes NO sense, since you're only using the extra headroom in the recording process. A 24/48 recording could at least be burned to DVD - higher sampling rates will allow for greater definition, but only YOUR ears can tell you if the dithered/downsampled version can compare to the original.

I always seed at 16 bit - I usually record at 24/48, sometimes at 24/44.1.

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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 03:26:50 PM »
Thanks guys.  +T all around.

I'll seed the 16 bit tomorrow and see if there is any interest in the 24 bit seed.

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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 10:29:21 PM »
i would do the 16 1st otherwsie you might end up wqith people taking the 24 and dithering it themself
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Re: Should I seed 16 bit or 24 bit first?
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 01:11:18 AM »
You can get the 16 bit seeded to multiple people within a day or so, and then seed the larger 24 bit file


People who want it will either wait or download both
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