Topic: help for the ignorant: shn tool

[cbd]

is tehre somewhere I can find a quick primer on shntool? I have never used it. My understanding is the only reason its used to to avoid secator boundary problems. Is that right?  I use cd wave makes it unnecessary.

However, a friend asked me to seed a show that was tracked out straight from a dat to a stand alone burner so am I correct that I will need to use shn tool to make sure the show is aligned on sector boundaries?

if so is it a free program? can anyone supply a link to where I can download it?

any basic nuts & bolts instructions for the computer challenged so I can use it?

[JasonSobel]

shntool will check for sector boundary errors, and can fix them, if neccesary.
shntool on its own is a pain to use, because it's from a DOS prompt.
Scott Brown has created a windows GUI, which makes it very simple to use, check it out:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=63828.0
and, yes, both shntool and Scott's program are free

[Gordon]

get joe's zipfile form here

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=22801.0

all that "in your path" stuff confused the fuck out me.  all that means is to put the exe's in your windows 32 folder.  then branchld showed me how to right click and run, fix etc.  I can teach you in a few mins.  it's not as hard as it seems.  even with cd wave sbe's can happen (though rare)  I use it and post it with every show I seed.  after it's set up it only takes 5 seconds to run shntool len.

[dnsacks]

A show transferred and tracked via a standalone burner should not have sector boundary errors (as a cd, by definition would need to be split at sector boundaries).  The tracking, however, could be less than ideal.

You might want to extract the entire show as one big wav using eac's "copy range" function and then retrack using cdwave.

Also, it's important to note that if you don't cut off the very end of a wav file being edited in cdwav, the last track will likely end up with a sector boundary error.

Finally, another option for fixing sector boundary errors is to use flac frontend to compress your wavs to flac and choose the "align on sector boundaries" option -- be sure that the tracks are in playback order in flac frontend before compressing.

[jbraveman]

There's a brief walkthrough on how to use it here: http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=20647 (scroll down to the bottom.

Trader's Little Helper also does the same thing: http://thor.prohosting.com/roh0205/

[twatts (pants are so over-rated...)]

is tehre somewhere I can find a quick primer on shntool? I have never used it. My understanding is the only reason its used to to avoid secator boundary problems. Is that right?  I use cd wave makes it unnecessary.

However, a friend asked me to seed a show that was tracked out straight from a dat to a stand alone burner so am I correct that I will need to use shn tool to make sure the show is aligned on sector boundaries?

if so is it a free program? can anyone supply a link to where I can download it?

any basic nuts & bolts instructions for the computer challenged so I can use it?

Use EAC to extract a CD Image of the Stand-Alone burns.  Use CDWave to cut the Image into tracks.  I would trim the last 0.01sec off of each image so the end doesn't have SBE.

If you need to "join" the two Images (or more), you can use SHNTOOLs, or any other music program that will merge WAV files together.

Once you have your huge WAV file, you can use CDWave to cut on sector boundaries.  Again trim the last 0.01sec for nice clean ending.

I rarely use SHNTOOLs, mostly when I DON'T see CDWave in the text file.  I run in through SHNTOOLs "len" mode to see if there are SBEs. 

FLAC Frontend, I think, automatically fixes any WAV SBE when it compresses to FLAC.  FLAC Frontend can also be used to "fix" any SBEs, but it doesn't support any of the other features like "Strip" and "Join".

If you want a step by step for SHNTOOLs, PM me...

Terry

[cbd]

thanks guys. gordon: I may be calling you (I think I have your cell somewhere). Terry may hit you up as well

I do know to cut off the end of the file in cd wave.

terry: I need to join the ones I want to do b/c they were already tracked out using a stand alone, although from dnsacks comments I shouldn't have a SBE issue

[Gordon]

craig

pm if you need my ## and help.  as for joining files nothing is easier for me than wavemerge.  it's hard to find but I can hook you up.  let me know.

G

[RebelRebel]

I wouldnt even bother with SHNTOOL. The GUI does everything for you...

Scott Brown has created a windows GUI, which makes it very simple to use, check it out:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=63828.0