Topic: MSH-1A omnis, part deux

[rowjimmy]

FYI -He's card his Cards up on the site now too. Dude is a mad man cranking stuff out down there, I guess. Pricing on the cards is the same (or mighty close iirc) as that for the omnis.

Additionally, he now has a page up for his 'mobile' line: http://www.naiant.com/studiostore/mobilemicrophones.html

[cleantone]

I want to hear the tube mics.

[rowjimmy]

As do I. I'm likely making a purchase later this month and I might throw one of those in the mix, just to see (hear) how it behaves...

[davepeck]

did he change the name from MSH-1A to MSH-1O? 

[mmmatt]

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matt

[TNJazz]

did he change the name from MSH-1A to MSH-1O? 

yes.  O for omni.  C for cardioid.

[mmmatt]

did he change the name from MSH-1A to MSH-1O? 

yes.  O for omni.  C for cardioid.

is the max spl rating the same?  I seem to remember the 1a being 115db, or am I confused.

matt

[bgalizio]

Hmm... may have to pick up the omnis. They could be good for a 4 mic mix...

[Chuck]

Hopefully Jon will chime in, but this is what he told me about the MSH-1O's:

Yes, the electronics are a little different (than the 1A's), so I could use the same
bits for the 1O and 1C.  Sensitivity is higher, SPL handling is higher
by 6dB, and the 1C is much higher, 124dB at 1kHz, but that is where the
mic is most sensitive, so for bass frequencies it could easily be 10dB
more. The 1C is tailored response though, so
I am not sure how desirable it would be for some applications.

Looks like I need to get the 1O's now...

[RebelRebel]

Jon, got your loaner today...WIll be throwing it up against 5 or 6 other omnis for kicks.

Teddy

Yes, the 1A is retired.  I needed a circuit that would work for the cardioid and the omni to keep my life uncomplicated, and the 1A circuit didn't.  I also listened to the cries for higher SPLs, so the 1O is higher.  In fact during my very intensive testing in development of the 1O, I noted that the 1A was likely 114dB +/- 2dB rather than 116 +/- 2dB.  Sometimes statistics are like that  when I can't test 30 microphones.  So the 1O is more conservatively rated at 122; actually I did a test today at 126 @ 0.8% THD.

Long story short, if you have an SPL problem with the 1A, shoot me an email.  If you don't and don't think you will, hold on to the 1A, there is no other advantage to the 1O.

The tube mic has highly variable distortion.  I wouldn't recommend it for any sort of recording where you desire accuracy.  While it doesn't clip until about the same level as the 1O; the distortion is around 2-4% for a very wide range below that, which is sort of the point.

I offer 1Cs in stereo pairs although I am somewhat ambivalent about it; I really don't know if I would consider it flat enough for that sort of thing, but enough people have asked me about it that it's available . . .

I'll have more about the 1M later, but since it is really designed for flexible power supplies, there is a limit to how much I can push SPLs.  I think it might get up to 1A levels, but I don't know about higher, and of course that would also depend on the power supply used . . .

[TNJazz]

Jon, got your loaner today...WIll be throwing it up against 5 or 6 other omnis for kicks.

Loaner?  I woulda thought you had deep enough pockets for a $20 omni, Ted   

[RebelRebel]

Jon, got your loaner today...WIll be throwing it up against 5 or 6 other omnis for kicks.

Loaner?  I woulda thought you had deep enough pockets for a $20 omni, Ted   

ever the joker!   Thats alright, I can take it!

[Ryan Sims]

[rowjimmy]

Jon, got your loaner today...WIll be throwing it up against 5 or 6 other omnis for kicks.

Teddy

Any results to report, Teddy?

I got my pair of MSH-1Os today so I'm gonna throw them up against these oktavas i have onhand. One thing about the the dmic-20 is that it's ideal for duplicating preamp gain...

[Chuck]

I haven't had the chance to check the SPL handling ability of the 1O's. Has anyone used them in a venue recording a PA system yet?