Topic: Korg MR-1 and MR-1000 - News DSD Recorders announced at AES

[newblue]

Exactly.  If you look at the freq response curves for the mics that are generally used, they start to fall off around 20kHz, so the freq spectrum above that won't be accurately represented; however, as Matt says, the mannor in which the analog wave is reproduced digitally through DSD and WSD/DXD is more true to the analog than PCM (esp true at 1 bit 5.6MHz) making the recorded sound more natural with improved imaging.

From my limited understanding though, DSD has to employ a HP filter to eliminate some of the LF noise generated through the digital conversion.

[Stagger]

Nick filled me in on this on the phone today (yea I'm behind the times). My solution is simple. I just, finally, bought my 722. For $1200.00 I'll pick up the large unit and run it in the Petrol bag (there is room for it) with the 722. Which ever works best, I'm keeping. The other one will be on yard sale and I'll take a loss. Its worth it to me.

[Nick's Picks]

me to.  your loss will be our gain.


I intend to get the little one.  I dont need anything other than "line in", so im not concerned w/a large unit for the sole purpose of balanced input.

[MattH]

me to.  your loss will be our gain.


I intend to get the little one.  I dont need anything other than "line in", so im not concerned w/a large unit for the sole purpose of balanced input.

I will be getting the large unit for WSD capability and the 40 GB drive.

[SClassical]

Interesting reading:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19141&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=90235

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

Interesting reading:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19141&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthread.php?t=90235

+thanks for the link!

Audiogate sounds interesting, I hope it's compatible with my Tascam's files, that'd be awsome.

jerrythek
Product Manager, Korg

Oops - Pete had the models wrong - the MR-1000 will be more than that, I would say it'll be more like $1,199 - $1,299. The MR-1 should be around $799. we don't have final piricng yet - it'll be announced at the NAMM Show, and the products will ship in March-April, 2007.

Regards,

Jerry

[Stagger]

Just in time for WsP spring tour! 

[newblue]

Let's hope so...

[SClassical]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://www.korg.co.jp/Product/DRS/MR-1/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DMR-1%2Bkorg%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG


Good link showing pictures and new spec info.

[SClassical]

Looks as if they are selling in Japan already!

http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7511

[flintstone]

Maybe there is a way to play back a DSD file without going through SACD mastering:

" Powered by SigmaTel's 8-channel High Definition Audio codec, multimedia PCs like Sony's new VAIO PC Type R, Type H and Type V models introduced for the Japanese market last month and the VAIO RC series and selected models in the RB series now available in the US, provide music enthusiasts and home studio users with the world's first consumer PC audio chip capable of recording and playback in the Sony DSD format"

http://ir.sigmatel.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=146091&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=760631&highlight=
Sept. 26, 2005

Sony calls this Vaio feature the "Sound Reality Processor."   Hmmmm.

Flintstone

[Nick's Picks]

interesting...
I could see one of those in my future.

[newblue]

Neither of the MR-series recorders will offer a digital out of any kind (yet).  Only analog, XLR outs on the MR-1000 and a line out type on the MR-1.  They both have a USB 2.0 connector to transfer files to and from a computer using Korg's Audiogate software.  Now if 'they' would only make an affordable true DSD sound card this might be able to be accomplished.

I still haven't been able to determine if you could send a DSD file from the recorder (or computer) via USB to the DVRA1000 HD (the new one with the hard drive) and they burn it using the tascam deck.  This is the only option that I can think might work for playing the native DSD files over a playback system w/o using the recorder.   

[newblue]

Maybe there is a way to play back a DSD file without going through SACD mastering:

" Powered by SigmaTel's 8-channel High Definition Audio codec, multimedia PCs like Sony's new VAIO PC Type R, Type H and Type V models introduced for the Japanese market last month and the VAIO RC series and selected models in the RB series now available in the US, provide music enthusiasts and home studio users with the world's first consumer PC audio chip capable of recording and playback in the Sony DSD format"

http://ir.sigmatel.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=146091&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=760631&highlight=
Sept. 26, 2005

Sony calls this Vaio feature the "Sound Reality Processor."   Hmmmm.

Flintstone

This ASIO technology is just a new type of driver that allows the software to interface with the hardware (soundcard) in a more efficient and direct manner.  This would allow for true multchannel (surround) 24-bit digital processing via consumer PC sound cards.  This is a step in the right direction allowing PCs to handle high volumes of digital audio data.  Hopefully this will open the door from multichannel 24-bit PCM I/O to native DSD I/O (as can only be had on very expensive consoles).  Hope is a long way from reality though.  Sony does it again with proprietary BS.

[newblue]

thanks!

the usb on the dvra1000 is a computer interface only. when in usb mode, it's no longer a recorder, but, rather, a transfer device like any other, so its not likely to work.

+

Moke, I think that the new DVRA1000HD will allow for files (DSD) to be transfered to the 60GB hard drive, but I'm not sure if they can be burned onto disc from there.