Topic: Korg MR-1 and MR-1000 - News DSD Recorders announced at AES

[RebelRebel]

One word: betamax.

Nah...DSD is a much better format than betamax was, and the potential is greater.. the fact that DSD is far superior to redbook audio(SOME DVD-As can compete if done well) is what seals it for me. SACD might not stick around,but DSD will be around for a while, I feel.

[MattH]

Come on.  Look who you are talking to here.   

I don't think that a 'mastering house' is a 'real' solution.  Maybe I should have made myself more clear.

The closest thing out there would be the TASCAM DVRA-HD.  If you could copy the DSDIFF files to the harddrive somehow and then transfer them to disc for playback then that would be a 'real' solution.  I have tried to find out if the USB interface with the DVRA-HD can be used bi-directionally, and haven't had much luck.  Those things are twice as much as what the MR-1000 would be, and just to play back the DSD files.  I imagine that things will be lop-sided with DSD for a while until it gets rolling.  Until then I don't mind to jump on board with the MR-1000 for obvious reasons.

At least we will be able to play back DSD files on the Korg and transfer files back and forth from hard drives or data dvd's until playback of DSD files becomes easier on the computer and future players.

[rdvdijk]

To give you an idea. Just a rough calculation but 3hrs would be about 7.75GB in 2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD or roughly 7.5hrs on a 20GB HD.

Record times on 4.7GB DVD+rw media from the Tascam DVRA1000 manual :
109 mins    2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD

How is the math on that? Couldn't work it out..

Roel

[udovdh]

To give you an idea. Just a rough calculation but 3hrs would be about 7.75GB in 2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD or roughly 7.5hrs on a 20GB HD.

Record times on 4.7GB DVD+rw media from the Tascam DVRA1000 manual :
109 mins    2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD

How is the math on that? Couldn't work it out..

bits/s times seconds per hour
divided by bits per byte
gives bytes per hour
given the capacity per dvd you can work out the rest.

[newblue]

Come on.  Look who you are talking to here.   

I don't think that a 'mastering house' is a 'real' solution.  Maybe I should have made myself more clear.

The closest thing out there would be the TASCAM DVRA-HD.  If you could copy the DSDIFF files to the harddrive somehow and then transfer them to disc for playback then that would be a 'real' solution.  I have tried to find out if the USB interface with the DVRA-HD can be used bi-directionally, and haven't had much luck.  Those things are twice as much as what the MR-1000 would be, and just to play back the DSD files.  I imagine that things will be lop-sided with DSD for a while until it gets rolling.  Until then I don't mind to jump on board with the MR-1000 for obvious reasons.

At least we will be able to play back DSD files on the Korg and transfer files back and forth from hard drives or data dvd's until playback of DSD files becomes easier on the computer and future players.

Bring it on!  I can't wait to ditch DAT.

[rdvdijk]

To give you an idea. Just a rough calculation but 3hrs would be about 7.75GB in 2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD or roughly 7.5hrs on a 20GB HD.

Record times on 4.7GB DVD+rw media from the Tascam DVRA1000 manual :
109 mins    2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD

How is the math on that? Couldn't work it out..

bits/s times seconds per hour
divided by bits per byte
gives bytes per hour
given the capacity per dvd you can work out the rest.

Ok here we go:

2.8224Mhz = 2,822,400 bits/s = 10,160,640,000 bits/hour = 1,270,080,000 bytes/hour

A dvd is about 4,700,000,000 bytes.. So that's 3.7 hours per DVD?

So I guess the 2.8224MHz is per channel? In that case it's 2,540,160,000 bytes/hour, which gives 1.85 hours per DVD.

That's more like it ;-)

So, on the internal 20GB hard disk, that would fit almost 8 hours. Not bad!

Roel

[newblue]

If you run 5.6MHz, you would almost need to use a dual layer DVD to make physical media archival plausable.  It would be around 54 minutes on a reg 4.7 GB DVD at that rate.  That's a lot of data.

[Church-Audio]

To give you an idea. Just a rough calculation but 3hrs would be about 7.75GB in 2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD or roughly 7.5hrs on a 20GB HD.

Record times on 4.7GB DVD+rw media from the Tascam DVRA1000 manual :
109 mins    2.8224MHz/1-bit DSD

How is the math on that? Couldn't work it out..

bits/s times seconds per hour
divided by bits per byte
gives bytes per hour
given the capacity per dvd you can work out the rest.

Where did you read that ? LOL

[muj]

http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Korg_1-Bit_Recording_tutorial.wmv

http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Korg_MR-1_&_MR-1000.wmv

[muj]

[Rick]

http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Korg_1-Bit_Recording_tutorial.wmv

http://img3.harmony-central.com/Video/aes121/Korg_MR-1_&_MR-1000.wmv

wow that MR1 is smalll... Me like

I wonder what if that Auto Level thing can be turned off.

[newblue]

wouldn't be much of a recorder if it didn't have some gain control options

[rdvdijk]

Nice picture.. It's certainly the most sturdy-looking device so far.

Roel

[Colin Liston]

I like the Radion Shack gold mini plug the best.

[Nick's Picks]

i'm excited for these products.  I wonder if I can get one to review...
anyone have any connections at Korg?