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Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« on: February 20, 2007, 06:42:28 PM »
Hello! I want to record some stuff this Summer and I am trying to get a Iriver H120 through ebay...

I have one question, where I could not find an answer in the Iriver faq.
Is there the opportunity to connect an irvier directly with a external USB hard disk to transfer the recorded Shows to the drive?

For example, if I am going to some festivals (3 days) and I want to record more shows; has the Iriver the opportunity to load the files to the hard drive, so I can record some stuff on the next day again?? a 2.5 external Harddrive without extra energy?? Would that work? Or a normal one?? Or nothing??

The battery would not be the problem, because we have always a small generator with us, so I could recharge without problems...

or the lastest solution would be to take the notebook with, but that is what I don't want!


Would be very nice, if someone could help me out, or test it or something?!

thanks in advance!

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2007, 07:15:32 PM »
It will be cheaper and less cumbersome to buy an H140 and have the capacity to tape close to 60 hours.

You'll need 5V DC external battery power with either the 120 or 140 if you're taping for many hours.

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 08:35:58 PM »
No, you can't move the files directly to an external drive. You'l need a computer of some sort.
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2007, 04:10:04 AM »
It will be cheaper and less cumbersome to buy an H140 and have the capacity to tape close to 60 hours.

You'll need 5V DC external battery power with either the 120 or 140 if you're taping for many hours.

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Thanks a lot! I will try to get a h140. upto 60 Hours sounds really perfect! more than enough for me. Ah and thanks for the Advice with the external battery! I will exactly do what you suggested!

Thanks!

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2007, 04:54:57 AM »
If you use RockBox, you can record in WavPack.
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2007, 06:28:33 AM »
If you use RockBox, you can record in WavPack.
Lossless compression....

Yes - thanks a lot! Thats what I learned here already -  I have read here through a lot of posts and tons of Informations! Awesome Board!

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2007, 12:14:44 PM »
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 05:13:53 PM »
The Iriver H320 (and I assume the H340) has USB On-The-Go capability.  This allows you to pull data from an external source (like a digital camera) onto the H320's harddrive without a computer.  I wonder if that could be reversed to output from the H320 if you have a USBOTG-capable external harddrive :hmmm:  Thread about USBOTG for the H320 on the misticriver.net forums.

Of course the H320 lacks the optical-in that the H120 sports which may be a deal-breaker for you.

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2007, 03:15:38 PM »
The Iriver H320 (and I assume the H340) has USB On-The-Go capability.  This allows you to pull data from an external source (like a digital camera) onto the H320's harddrive without a computer.  I wonder if that could be reversed to output from the H320 if you have a USBOTG-capable external harddrive :hmmm:  Thread about USBOTG for the H320 on the misticriver.net forums.

1) the URL you quote is about using USBOTG on the US version of the H3x0, which is sold 'without' USBOTG. The truth there is that the port of the USBOTG controller is used as normal USB slave port. Using a non-US firmware version gives you USBOTG, but it has one issue: the port supplies no power (like for memory sticks). So that thread explains how to solve that.

2) the H3x0 is USBOTG host, meaning you can attach slave devices on it. You can copy data from/to such a device as long as it identifies itself as mass storage device. Such devices typically present themselves as removable storage under windows (without the need of a driver). So you can transfer data from/to the attached device.

3) I don't know what you mean by 'USBOTG-capable external harddrive'. If you mean a drive that can be host itself (where you can attach other memory sticks on it), you just need to use the normal USB port of the H3x0, as it is mass storage compliant itself.

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2007, 04:23:54 PM »
It will be cheaper and less cumbersome to buy an H140 and have the capacity to tape close to 60 hours.

60 hours? but you dont mean of wave or wavpack, dont you?

well, normally i record in wave (dont know why not using wavpack, i am stupid ;)).
lets say 1 minute of wave is approximately 10mb.
so you can record ca. 200minutes of music (or whatever sounds) to a h120 while using wave format.
am i right? ::)

so, please explain me 60 hours using a h140 ???
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2007, 04:47:43 PM »
Recording 2 channels at 16/48 uses about 660MB per hour.
The H120 has 20GB of file storage.
Divide 20GB by 660MB = space for 30 hours of recordings.

The H140 has a 40GB disc, twice as much space.
30 hours *2 = space to store 60 hours for recordings.

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2007, 03:20:01 PM »
I don't really see the need for external power with the iRiver h1xx series if you install a new 2200mah battery (especially if you have access to a generator at the end of each festival day).  I'm getting 20-24 hours of playback time on mine.  I haven't checked the recording time since installing the new battery, but it should be in the 10-12 hour range (based on the recording time I had with the old battery).  External power would come in handy in an emergency, however.   
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 08:54:21 AM »
I don't really see the need for external power with the iRiver h1xx series if you install a new 2200mah battery (especially if you have access to a generator at the end of each festival day).  I'm getting 20-24 hours of playback time on mine.  I haven't checked the recording time since installing the new battery, but it should be in the 10-12 hour range (based on the recording time I had with the old battery).  External power would come in handy in an emergency, however.   


where did you get your 2200mah batt?

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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2007, 10:38:22 AM »
where did you get your 2200mah batt?

Ebay.  You want a 2200 mah battery for the 1st & 2nd generation iPod units.  Here's the cheapest one I could find on ebay:  http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Battery-For-Apple-iPod-1st-2nd-Generation-2200-mAh_W0QQitemZ300085924169QQihZ020QQcategoryZ118261QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Edit:  Make sure you read up on how to do the replacement.  You will have to reverse the wires at the molex connector on the iPod battery listed above so that it will work in the iRiver (reverse polarity).
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Re: Iriver H120 + external USB Hard Drive Question
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2007, 05:49:36 PM »
I just installed 2200mah batts in my h120 and 140.  There is a huge difference compared to the old batterys that only lasted for 3 hours.  I could probably play music on them for over 20 hours straight.
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