48 KHz question.....

[1st set only]

So I went ot and taped Prodject Object on friday. Unbelivable, Frank Zappa rose from the dead in Boston. I did a 3 mic mix it came out great but I really cant tell what the third mic actually did for the recording as i didnt turn it off and on for the opener to test.

question # 1

I recorded at 48 kHz to my JB3 and then transfered to SF, cut it up and burned it with nero. the discs sound like a badly compressed mp3 (tinny) on disc but the originals sound great. What is going on? I have a burner that can burn @ 52x should I burn at a slower speed?

question # 2

Flac front end is not able to compress the files? Cant Flac handle 48 kHz?

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[nickgregory]

you need to resample to 44.1, which is the CD capable sampling rate.

[1st set only]

I belive that nero is doing it on the fly.... would burning at a slower speed remidy this? I would like to avoid resamling....

[rmouk]

FLAC can definately handle 48 kHz files.  I run a UA-5 -> JB3 and if I run 16/48 I like to keep a FLAC'd master copy at 48 kHz in case I ever decide to do any DSP at a later time (like when I actually learn how do it right!).  Then I resample the whole master track, cut it up into tracks in CDWAV, and FLAC the 44.1 kHz tracks.

Bob

[nickgregory]

Actually I dont think Nero does this on the fly....I believe it burns whatever the sampled .wav is.  

[1st set only]

well nero can burn audio cd's from flac files....  so i would think that it could resample on the fly.

I dont have the files with me here but I do remember that the error messages that I got from flac was cannot find PO 03-10-17d1t#.flac

[nickgregory]

Understand that Nero can burn flac files, but it will burn whatever the .wav rate is...either 44.1 or 48kHz.  If it "resampled on the fly" it would take as long it takes to resample a normal .wav file....depending on computer speed 20 minutes - over an hour - to burn a disc....I would try resampling to 44.1 then reburning and see if that solves your problem.

[wbrisette]

If it "resampled on the fly" it would take as long it takes to resample a normal .wav file....depending on computer speed 20 minutes - over an hour - to burn a disc...

Well, I can tell you from experience that WaveBurner from Emagic does this on a Mac and it doesn't take any longer than burning a standard 44.1 file. It gives you several methods to use when converting, so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a CD burning program handle this real-time without slowing down the burning process. How Emagic does this, I don't know, but if they can do it, so can others.

Wayne

[nickgregory]

If it "resampled on the fly" it would take as long it takes to resample a normal .wav file....depending on computer speed 20 minutes - over an hour - to burn a disc...

Well, I can tell you from experience that WaveBurner from Emagic does this on a Mac and it doesn't take any longer than burning a standard 44.1 file. It gives you several methods to use when converting, so I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that a CD burning program handle this real-time without slowing down the burning process. How Emagic does this, I don't know, but if they can do it, so can others.

Wayne

then I am mistaken...

[F.O.Bean]

you would be MUCH better off resampling thru a wave editing program...try samplitude 6.0 or cool edit..they HAVE to be leaps and boundz over nero 8)and if that noise is being heard, its NOT resampling...

[Cooker]

i thought nero resampled audio by going D > A > D on the fly. sounds like it from what you are describing. also your errors with flac not finding files might have to do with the space in the filename. i know flacbat chokes on files with spaces.. but i can usually decompress/compress them with frontend no problem.

[wbrisette]

you would be MUCH better off resampling thru a wave editing program...

I'm curious to know why you think this? If done properly there should be NO difference between resampling through any audio application and resampling "on-the-fly" during burning. I find it a lot easier to leave the material at 48KHz, then let WaveBurner do it's converting when it burns it to CD. I've compared resampling prior and WB's resampling while burning and can't tell any difference between the two.

Wayne

[1st set only]

i thought nero resampled audio by going D > A > D on the fly. sounds like it from what you are describing. also your errors with flac not finding files might have to do with the space in the filename. i know flacbat chokes on files with spaces.. but i can usually decompress/compress them with frontend no problem.

thank you this might work ill try it tonight
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[F.O.Bean]

you would be MUCH better off resampling thru a wave editing program...

I'm curious to know why you think this? If done properly there should be NO difference between resampling through any audio application and resampling "on-the-fly" during burning. I find it a lot easier to leave the material at 48KHz, then let WaveBurner do it's converting when it burns it to CD. I've compared resampling prior and WB's resampling while burning and can't tell any difference between the two.

Wayne

well, for one, as mentioned above, it didnt sound like his nero was resampling "on the fly" right .if a lot of audible noise and pitch were heard, id say it soundz like it didnt do a too fine of a job resampling :)and i havent tried yer wave burner(soundz nice), maybe it does a better job resampling, i dunno, i might have to give it a try......

i basically just like the comfort of knowing if i use samplitude 6.0 or whatever, i have in my hands professional recording equpment that can do it not on the fly, but i have a better gut feeling using

[wbrisette]

and i havent tried yer wave burner(soundz nice), maybe it does a better job resampling, i dunno, i might have to give it a try......

Of course that would mean upgrading to a Mac since Emagic never made this product for the Windows and now that Apple owns Emagic I doubt they ever will.

Wayne