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Offline Nick Graham

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LD Mic Configs
« on: April 29, 2007, 01:42:24 PM »
At one point there was a web page (started by old ts.com member Jason B) with pictures of pretty much every mic config using an AKG T-Bar and a pair of Neumann U89s.

Anybody know the URL, or saved the pics and can re-post by chance?

Thanks in advance....
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2007, 01:57:15 PM »
My preferred solution for coincident configs:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,66061.msg886386.html#msg886386

Moke archived the pics about which I think you're asking:

http://www.taperssection.com/reference/images/JasonB%20LD%20Mic%20Configs/

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  See attached pics below for what I mean - I prefer "b" instead of "a" for stability (though I always used a lightweight stand).

« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 02:20:59 PM by Brian Skalinder »
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2007, 02:14:49 PM »
Thanks so much for the links! Those were definitely the pics I was looking for, though the 414 photos obviously help a ton too.

I think your reply got cut off...


My preferred solution for coincident configs:

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,66061.msg886386.html#msg886386

Moke archived the pics about which I think you're asking:

http://www.taperssection.com/reference/images/JasonB%20LD%20Mic%20Configs/

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  This basically requires
Right now nothing...in the past: Schoeps CMC6, AKG 480, AKG 460, AKG 414, MBHO 603a, Neumann KM100, ADK TL>Schoeps MK4, Schoeps MK2, Schoeps MK41, AKG ck61, AKG ck62, AKG ck63, Neumann AK40, Neumann AK50, MBHO ka200>Lunatec V2, Lunatec V3, Apogee Mini-Me, Oade M148, Oade M248, Sound Devices MP2, Sonosax SXM2>Sony (mod)SBM1, Apogee AD500>D7, D8, D100, M1, R1, R4, R09, iRiver HP120, Microtrack

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2007, 02:21:37 PM »
I think your reply got cut off...

Whoops, forgot to complete the post before, well...posting.  Updated, now, with a couple pics to illustrate what I was talking about.
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2007, 02:32:08 PM »
Ditto on the Windtechs for running coincident

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2007, 02:40:43 PM »

For near-coincident stability, I like adjusting the AKG KM235 bar such that the mics are centered above the mic stand's vertical axis, instead of out in front 3-6".  See attached pics below for what I mean - I prefer "b" instead of "a" for stability (though I always used a lightweight stand).

This is stellar advice. Once I figured this out I was amazed at how much more stable my stand was. hanging them out front really makes even a big old bogen stand want to lean forward so much so that I was afraid that one tap from a wooks dread could make the whole stand tip over.

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2007, 10:09:23 AM »
Ditto on the Windtechs for running coincident



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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2007, 01:56:55 PM »


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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2007, 10:56:10 PM »
LD Tapers rock!   :D

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2007, 11:58:54 PM »
LDs rule.
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2007, 01:16:47 PM »
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2007, 01:52:10 PM »
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?

you can run either subcards or omnis spread pointed out ~30* w/ good results.
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2007, 12:51:24 AM »
I have a set of 414's that I just got and am still learning how to use. the set came with the mark bar and I was told that the easiest and best way to run them was close together and at 90 degrees crossing each other.Looks like I need to buy two clamps. The pair also came with a 36" bar. Someone told me that I could run the mics all the way apart, but what degree do I set them at?

you can run either subcards or omnis spread pointed out ~30* w/ good results.

~30* what does that mean?  I am headed to a couple of festivals this summer and was wondering how I should run them. Should I just leave the 36" bar at home? or are you saying to run them at a 30" split and point the LD's directly out to the sides or to the front?

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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2007, 03:41:45 AM »
30 degrees. as in pointed at/outside the stacks.
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Re: LD Mic Configs
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2007, 08:59:10 AM »
what about the split? should I run them all the way out with a 36" split? Someone had also recommended using an Omni pickup.

 

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