Sony MZ-RH1 and ECM-719

[rdflash]

get the hi-md.more advantanges than dis-advatanges.

i would shy away from HI-MD based on transferring the shows (if he plans on sharing or just transferring to cd or anything involved w/ transfers).

1.  he would need a good sound card
2.  this is real time transfer
3.  still need something to store transfer on
4.  pain compared to the minute it takes iriver to connect and "drag n drop"

wow, pretty much nothing you said there is true.  RH1 will upload via USB to your computer with some simple software that comes with your HIMD.  Depending on how fast your computer is it will take about 15 min or so to upload a show that was recorded in PCM. 

whoops, i meant regular MD's - sorry!

i meant one thing and typed the other...my bad!

btw, iriver fluffing requires no software and records in wav and transfers quicker

[MadMaster]

My 2 cents:

I started with a Hi-MD (Sony MZ-RH10), recorded 3 shows and hated the limit of max. 96 minutes on a Hi-MD disc when recording in PCM-WAV.
After that I upgraded to a Nomad JB3, but didn't like the size of it.
Now I have a iRiver H120 and for back-up a H140 and the iRiver with the Rockbox operating software is perfect for me.

My mics (AT931's) + battery box (SP-SPSB-8) + iRiver fits in one of my pockets an the complete rig is really small sized.
I added clips from the Clip Company to the iRiver & battery box to clip the gear to my belt when recording.

Forget the Hi-MD and especially the ECM-719 mic and buy yourself a good rig that isn't that expensive... 

[Arni99]

I use both my 2 x RH1s and my iriver H140 rockboxed.

pros for RH1:
mic in AND line in=>you don´t need a preamp(important for stealth-tapers)
the internal preamp of the RH1 is top-notch!

pros for iriver:
no 94min 55sec PCM recording limit (thats why i have 2 x RH1s) for hotswapping after 75-80minutes
...i just unplug the line-in cable from the 1st RH1 and plug it to the 2nd one which takes 1 second. you won´t hear this on the recording because the "swap-track" after 75-80 min is the last track of the 1st cd and thats where i do a fade out in post.

Only 1 RH1 wouldn´t do the job for me as I HATE the 94min PCM limit as others mentioned here already.

[Semayat]

Hi,

To P-man : I used to tape with a MD and that Ecm-719 (omni mic) and i must that was full of crap : I've recorded over 15 shows with that rig and have only 4/5 nice sounding shows....that's a nice rig when you tape in small quiet club, but when you want to tape in festival or loud shows that's truly inapropriate....
I decided to upgrade :

I bought (as you can see in my sig) an IRiver IHp 120 (rockboxed) and some AT831's at SP (who are very reliable) and i have GREAT results...you'll be under 500€, believe me, and your ratio costs/pleasure has no price   ....Be sure that this IRiver unit records in lossless (you can choose the settings your self) and not only Mp3....the size of this rig is cool : I put my batt box in one pack of cigarettes and my unit+mics in my front pocket...I've never get busted by the security, yet  
The IRiver records over 14 hours of music on a 20Go hd....

HIMD+ecm719 : 450$ new
AT831+battbox+IRiver : 450$ (mix of new & used)

just like MadMaster said :

Forget the Hi-MD and especially the ECM-719 mic and buy yourself a good rig that isn't that expensive...

Just think about that...

Semayat

[P-Man]

ok, so I think I've crossed the MZ-RH1 off my list. How long will the iRiver H120 record in wav for? I'm going to see Alexisonfire & Billy Talent on July 13. They'll probably be 3 1/2 hours (on the safe side).

If I look at SP.com for a mic, what am I looking for?

Btw, I've been looking and I can't seem to find any place in Canada, where I live, that sells the H120. Any help?

Just as a side note, I'm kinda in a bit of a rush too because on June 18 I'm going to see Russell Peters, the comedian, and want to tape it.

Thanks,
Paul

[smokydays]

You will have to check on ebay or in the ts yard sale as these are not manufactured new anymore.  You could post as ISO in the yard sale and see if anyone wants to sell one.

[P-Man]

Aw shit. Is there any other option instead of the iRiver H120?

edit: Can't seem to find it on ebay, only batteries.

[smokydays]

It seems like there are a couple of different models that are geared toward our interest.  All of them benefit greatly from installing the third party firmware rockbox. 

EDIT: h120 & h320

[P-Man]

It seems like there are a couple of different models that are geared toward our interest.  All of them benefit greatly from installing hte third party firmware rockbox. 

Example of these?

Is there another manufacturer?

[Gawain]

ok, so I think I've crossed the MZ-RH1 off my list. How long will the iRiver H120 record in wav for? I'm going to see Alexisonfire & Billy Talent on July 13. They'll probably be 3 1/2 hours (on the safe side).

you can record till you fill the 20 GB hard disc There is a limit in size (1.75 GB) or in time (can't remember how much, 3 hours and something). But after reach the limit, it starts another file automatically (while saving the first one), so there is any lost in the music.

[Liquid Drum]

Keep a lookout for iRiver:

h120
h320

They crop up on ebay from time to time and also in the yard sale here.

I also am interested on how long I can record (by that I mean battery life). I recently got an iRiver and its supurb thanks to Rockbox. Haven't taped with it yet so not sure how long it can tape in WAV with the internal battery.

[darktrain]

Keep a lookout for iRiver:

h120
h320

They crop up on ebay from time to time and also in the yard sale here.

I also am interested on how long I can record (by that I mean battery life). I recently got an iRiver and its supurb thanks to Rockbox. Haven't taped with it yet so not sure how long it can tape in WAV with the internal battery.

You should be able to get 6-8hrs of recording time easy  out of a good battery

[Liquid Drum]

Keep a lookout for iRiver:

h120
h320

They crop up on ebay from time to time and also in the yard sale here.

I also am interested on how long I can record (by that I mean battery life). I recently got an iRiver and its supurb thanks to Rockbox. Haven't taped with it yet so not sure how long it can tape in WAV with the internal battery.

You should be able to get 6-8hrs of recording time easy  out of a good battery

Awesome, thanks for the info.  +t

[P-Man]

Are there any current models that I can buy? Any brand other than iRiver thats more common marketplace (ie. Future Shop, Best Buy, etc.)?

What about a mic? Any common manufacturers? How long does Sound Professionals take to deliver?

[MadMaster]

Are there any current models that I can buy?

The iRiver models that on the market right now won't do the job.

Any brand other than iRiver thats more common marketplace (ie. Future Shop, Best Buy, etc.)?

At the moment, no. Or you have to buy a Edirol R-9 which is more expensive.

What about a mic? Any common manufacturers? How long does Sound Professionals take to deliver?

Soundprofessionals can deliver everything you need, try the AT853's or AT831's. I'm from Europe and received my mic's within' a week, regular shipment.
Other not that expensive suppliers can be Microphone Madness and Church Audio (the owner, Chris, is a member of this forum).

Overall tip, check other topics at this forum, there is a bunch of info available. Use the search-option and 99,9% of your questions will be answered. And check the rigs of other people, many of the members overhere have there rigs mentioned in their signatures (like I have).