Some Edirol R-09 questions...

[maidentallica]

1) Will it be good for taping metal bands? Not robots , bands like Metallica 
2) Does it record well with the internal microphones? If not, what mics work well with it?
3) Is it worth the £300?
4) Does anyone have any sound clips

Help is appreciated, thanks in advance

[Church-Audio]

1) Will it be good for taping metal bands? Not robots , bands like Metallica 
2) Does it record well with the internal microphones? If not, what mics work well with it?
3) Is it worth the £200?
4) Does anyone have any sound clips

Help is appreciated, thanks in advance

Do not waste your money on this toy.. its cheap plastic case and cheap build quality leave a lot to be desired not to mention its very easy to overload mic preamps and you have a recipe for shit recordings... EDIROL R-09

[maidentallica]

1) Will it be good for taping metal bands? Not robots , bands like Metallica 
2) Does it record well with the internal microphones? If not, what mics work well with it?
3) Is it worth the £200?
4) Does anyone have any sound clips

Help is appreciated, thanks in advance

Do not waste your money on this toy.. its cheap plastic case and cheap build quality leave a lot to be desired not to mention its very easy to overload mic preamps and you have a recipe for shit recordings... EDIROL R-09
/quote]

How about now?

[dorrcoq]

Well, I love my Edirol, so I would say it is worth it.  I made some recordings with the internal mics that I was quite happy with, but then I upgraded to Mr. Church's cardiods and preamp.   I doubt if the internals would be good enough for a loud show like Metallica.

[Arni99]

1) Will it be good for taping metal bands? Not robots , bands like Metallica 
2) Does it record well with the internal microphones? If not, what mics work well with it?
3) Is it worth the £200?
4) Does anyone have any sound clips

Help is appreciated, thanks in advance

Do not waste your money on this toy.. its cheap plastic case and cheap build quality leave a lot to be desired not to mention its very easy to overload mic preamps and you have a recipe for shit recordings... EDIROL R-09

chris are you talking about the R09 or HI-MD...overloading mic-preamp?
EDIT: seems the topic starter changed the title of the thread ESSENTIALY! HAHA


of course u can tape metalbands on line-in with a battery box and a mic which can handle very high soundpressures.
I would choose the HLSC-1 for very loud shows.
NEVER tape too close to the PA, better find a place near the soundboard.
The internal mics can be used for soft to moderately loud club shows BUT quality external mics always sound better .
For really loud stuff external mics are a MUST.
I really like the internal mics for ad hoc taping of sounds ie. for meetings or atmo-taping.
no need with external mics...just hit REC and enjoy.

[Dede2002]

WTF... 
What thread is this ? "Re: Some Edirol R-09 questions" or "Some Zoom H4 questions"?

[dorrcoq]

Started as the Zoom, until Chris told him it was a cheap plastic toy and he should go Edirol instead

[Keyd]

I have both the zoom and the edirol r-09. I haven't really been too happy with either.

The zoom's internal mics record better quality in my many tests.

The edirol is alot easier to adjust the recording levels.

I'd say there both cheap plastic but the zoom is alot heavier and more durable. The edirol feels like an empty pack of cigarettes to me.

The edirol is smaller in size and easier to get past body searches.

The input jacks are fragile on the edirol and many have had problems with them. There have been alot of returns of this product at my local pro audio store and they said edirol may discontinue it. It seems like they sell enough of them though. I say just don't wiggle the connectors and the jacks when connecting like alot of people do and you won't have problems with the inputs.

The inputs are different as the edirol has only mini inputs and the zoom has xlr and 1/4 inch.

I have some church audio mics and preamp on the way and will try them with these recorders.

Honestly, I am probably going to get the Korg MR-1 or something new that comes out.

I had the microtrack and didn't like that one either. I returned it.

[maidentallica]

Okay, questions 1-3 are answered, but does anyone have any soundclips I can hear?

[bozac26]

Tonight I just recorded "Kenny G" at the Schnitzer. CA>CA-9100>R9. Jazz music, heavy sax, Slappin R&B bass. The recording sounds very good. It was recorded in stealth mode and I am happy with it.
Don't know where all the R9 negativity is coming from.

I don't build microphones. Nor do I build pre's. I couldn't tell you the difference between an And gate and an Or gate. But I am good at getting my gear into tough venues and making very good recordings. I.E (Roseland, Portland Or) (Belly-Up Tavern, Solona Beach CA) .

The Edirol R9 has never failed me yet.

[maidentallica]

Tonight I just recorded "Kenny G" at the Schnitzer. CA>CA-9100>R9. Jazz music, heavy sax, Slappin R&B bass. The recording sounds very good. It was recorded in stealth mode and I am happy with it.
Don't know where all the R9 negativity is coming from.

I don't build microphones. Nor do I build pre's. I couldn't tell you the difference between an And gate and an Or gate. But I am good at getting my gear into tough venues and making very good recordings. I.E (Roseland, Portland Or) (Belly-Up Tavern, Solona Beach CA) .

The Edirol R9 has never failed me yet.

Jazz isn't my thing, but can I hear it so I can get an idea of the sound quality? TIA

[Arni99]

What you hear ist the quality of the MICS and not the recording device . Mics are the most important parameter for a good sounding recording.

The Edirol doesn´t "SOUND", it´s the external MICS(and the acoustics of the venue and many other parameters!) which make a recording sound good or bad.
So each R09 sample will sound different as different mics were used for different recordings at different venues.

Focus your interest on "WHICH MIC" might fit best for metal-shows and not "which recording device" might fit best.
As long as it´s lossless (at least 16bit 44.1kHz) its ok.

[maidentallica]

Okay then, well can you tell me which mic would be best suited for metal shows ?

[Arni99]

Okay then, well can you tell me which mic would be best suited for metal shows ?

I already recommended the MM-HLSC-1 mic in my 1st post of this thread .
http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmhigsencars.htm
I taped Red Hot Chili Peppers with this mic.
Will mail you a sample in a few minutes.
You need to boost high frequencies in post(with software) and low frequencies sometimes using this mic, but it sounds very detailed .

[Dede2002]

Okay then, well can you tell me which mic would be best suited for metal shows ?

I already recommended the MM-HLSC-1 mic in my 1st post of this thread .
http://www.microphonemadness.com/products/mmhigsencars.htm
I taped Red Hot Chili Peppers with this mic.
Will mail you a sample in a few minutes.
You need to boost high frequencies in post(with software) and low frequencies sometimes using this mic, but it sounds very detailed .

Like Arni said, the MM HLSC-1 is the way to go in your case. I'm quite happy with the way my mics handles very,very,very SPL. I can use bit more of bass, but the HLSC-1 are awesome regarding transparency and detail.Hope that helps.