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Peluso news
« on: December 01, 2007, 08:32:05 AM »
I had a talk with John yesterday...and figured i'd leak some of his new developments here so we can get all antsy about it.
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First, we discussed the P stereo.
"faithfully reproduces the Neumann u67 capsule eh" he asked me.
I have never run an SM69.  I've heard a handfull of concert recordings done with one.  I've heard plenty of neumann LD recordings though and consider myself a fan of the neumann sound.  This mic does indeed sound like a neumann.  at least to me.
So if you ever wanted to run neumann LDs, just buy this mic and never look back.  its that good.
He's quite proud of it, and should be.

Next question was "how are those active cables coming for the cemc6" ?
slowly...., was the response.  they are working with a cable mill in germany right now to nail down the specs on the wire they need.  I think this is all good news.  At least, the project was not abandoned.  He realizes the value of this innovation to an already existing product that is respected on its own.
But..the big news here is that shortly we will see a new capsule for the condenser.  It will be a 3 pattern, user selectable vertical capsule.  Omni - Card - Fo8.  Peluso M-S and blumlein baby!!!  oh yea.

I then started to plant seeds...suggesting that he design a SD stereo mic w/coincident capsules.  And that the capsule array be mounted on an active cable system that would allow it to be run remotely (via the cable and away from the preamp body).
He commented that all the parts will be designed in such a way that building off of the existing product line will not be a huge deal. 

All good news.
I expect to be getting my hands on this gear as soon as he makes them available to the public at large.  Maybe sooner.

right on John Peluso!

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2007, 08:46:28 AM »
Good stuff! Though, I'm sad to hear that the possible 5 pattern lollipop cap wasn't mentioned.

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2007, 08:53:10 AM »
we didn't discuss any of that.

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2007, 09:01:23 AM »
Great news.  That should allow many more TS.com'rs to see the light and run M/S.  ;D

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2007, 09:17:33 AM »
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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2007, 09:52:42 AM »
Jeebus. And I just posted my CEMC6's for sale, because I need something lower profile.....oh well. If the actives really come out, I would be back to the Peluso's in a heartbeat.

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2007, 02:28:06 PM »
nice fig 8 pattern will be great. that will be for the CEMC6 right?
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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2007, 08:19:25 AM »
yes. 

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2007, 04:33:02 PM »
Anyone use the Peluso hyper cap?

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2007, 06:33:11 PM »
I used it a lot.  I thought it was respectable.  Not as nice as the card, but definitely better off axis rejection.  Its just not as smooth sounding as the other caps.  worth having for when you need it I suppose.

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 11:11:49 AM »
Any more word on the new vertical capsule?  Somehow the first time I read this, I missed that it was a side address, which is awesome- I could wait a looooong time for the actives if I could run a pair of cards upright FOB. Not to mention running M/S........damn. I hope those things are ready soon.

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2008, 11:25:19 PM »
If I go back to SD condensers, the Beyer mc930 or the Peluso w/3-pattern cap are the only options I'm considering. Love to hear any new Peluso news.
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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2008, 11:43:24 PM »
Nick -

Is there anymore on the LD that is similar to the USM69?

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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2008, 07:02:42 AM »
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Re: Peluso news
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2008, 03:37:40 PM »
People should perhaps be aware that the U 67 and the various Neumann stereo mikes based on its same K 67 capsule sound different from one another. It would be good to know which approach is actually planned for this stereo mike, since it can't be both at the same time.

The U 67 is a mellow, smooth-sounding tube mike but its capsule has an inherently rising high-frequency response on axis. The U 67 circuitry contains a very fancy feedback system that does a number of things, such as providing a low-cut filter before the signal even reaches the grid of the tube. It also rolls off the top-end response of the capsule a total of 7 dB (!) by 16 kHz.

German broadcasting at the time the U 67 was introduced (1960) was still a government monopoly, and all the German stations received their technical direction from a central organization which was the forerunner of today's IRT. Since the early 1950s, German broadcasters had settled on the Telefunken AC 701k tube as standard equipment in condenser microphones, so there was unhappiness about the fact that the U 67 used a different tube that needed special power supplies. Many broadcast studios had N 52 power supplies for AC 701-based microphones built right into their mixing desks.

About a year later, Neumann agreed to produce a broadcast version of the U 67 called the M 269, which not only used the AC 701k but, like the M 49 before it, also offered remote pattern control. (It defaulted to cardioid when used with an ordinary power supply, but if used with the special power supplies built for the M 49, it could be remotely controlled.) And since the broadcast users expected to use the M 269 as a "main microphone" for recording entire broadcasts with only one or two mikes--i.e. not as a spot microphone or a vocal soloist's microphone, the way it's mainly used in studios today--they were content with an EQ curve that rolled off the response a little less on both ends. (Bandwidth control was again a standard feature of broadcast mixing consoles, so it didn't need to be in the microphone so much.) Thus the M 269 not only has different features and specifications from the U 67, but also a slightly different sound quality.

Then Neumann superseded their SM 2 and SM 23 stereo microphones with a model based on two K 67 capsules and two AC 701 tubes. Since this was intended for more distant use--overall recording rather than spot miking--and since space was at a premium in the combined amplifier, Neumann simplified the feedback arrangement and removed the circuit branch that rolled off the high frequencies in the microphone. As a result, the SM 69 and its solid-state successors (the SM 69fet and USM 69), have a rising high-frequency character; they're the opposite end of the spectrum from the U 67 as far as this series is concerned. The spectrum goes like this: U 67 (= 7 dB rolloff by 16 kHz) <-> M 269 <-> U 77 <-> U 87 and U 87 A (= 4 dB rolloff) <-> the three stereo mikes (= no high-frequency rolloff).

Thus my point: A stereo microphone can't faithfully follow the U 67 sound if it sounds like the stereo mikes that are based on the same capsule. I for one would prefer the U 67 sound--the SM 69fet and USM 69 definitely need some high-frequency restraint at times, and the whole notion of directional microphones needing a tipped-up high end to compensate for recording distance doesn't make much sense to me anyway.

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