Topic: HELP !!! : DSO @ State Theater, State College (Front Row Center of Balcony)

[Javier Cinakowski]

FYI: The AT U873R is the full bodied version of the AT853.  The U851R is a boundary mic that uses the AT853 capsules too...

I will be running Mics-> Oade Song Catcher PMD660

I appreciate any suggestions, thoughts or help!  Thanks!

[Javier Cinakowski]

Does anyone know what a good configuration is for Sub-cards?  People tend to use DINA for hypers, but what about subs?

[Jimna]

good idea for a poll!  T

[bgalizio]

Does anyone know what a good configuration is for Sub-cards?  People tend to use DINA for hypers, but what about subs?

A common subcard config is NOS. I really like that with my Peluso subcards, and on the many Schoeps MK-21 tapes I've heard as well. You can split them too, if you want.

[Javier Cinakowski]

Does anyone know what a good configuration is for Sub-cards?  People tend to use DINA for hypers, but what about subs?

A common subcard config is NOS. I really like that with my Peluso subcards, and on the many Schoeps MK-21 tapes I've heard as well. You can split them too, if you want.

Great, thanks!

So assume the option for subcards above in the poll is NOS

[Brian Skalinder]

How far back is the balcony from the stage?
How high is the balcony relative to the stacks?
Are there repeater stacks for balcony sound?
Is the balcony the only one, or is it a mezzanine-type or lower balcony situation where there's an overhang above you?
Any option to extend your mics out and/or down from the lip of the balcony?
Do you anticipate a chatty crowd, either in the balcony, or below?
And most importantly, how does it sound front row center balcony?

[Patrick]

NOS subcards is sweeter than butter.  If you have the caps, and are somewhat close to the stage, then I'd say go for it. 

[Javier Cinakowski]

How far back is the balcony from the stage?
How high is the balcony relative to the stacks?
Are there repeater stacks for balcony sound?
Is the balcony the only one, or is it a mezzanine-type or lower balcony situation where there's an overhang above you?
Any option to extend your mics out and/or down from the lip of the balcony?
Do you anticipate a chatty crowd, either in the balcony, or below?
And most importantly, how does it sound front row center balcony?

Great questions, let me try and answer them the best I can.  I have never been to this venue, however I have been told about by several local tapers:

How far back is the balcony from the stage? look like about 20 rows back on the seating chart
How high is the balcony relative to the stacks? I was told the stacks are quite high and the balcony is right in line
Are there repeater stacks for balcony sound? don't think so
Is the balcony the only one, or is it a mezzanine-type or lower balcony situation where there's an overhang above you?  It is the only balcony
Any option to extend your mics out and/or down from the lip of the balcony?  There is a lighting rig that I can mount to that is out from the balcony
Do you anticipate a chatty crowd, either in the balcony, or below? I expect the crowd to be a bit rowdy being a college town, but DSO plays loud and clear
And most importantly, how does it sound front row center balcony? apparently darn good

Thanks!

[Tim]

Subcards X/Y

[SuperDave]

Definitely no repeater stacks up in the balcony although they do have some small repeaters for the seats under the balcony.  It's usually up to the soundman on whether they are used or not.

The stacks are directly in line with the front row of the balcony and I think it's probably the best place to tape from in the place. 

Usually the crowds aren't chatty at all there but YMMV.  I think if you clamp to the lighting rig you won't have to worry about crowd noise at all.   

[Javier Cinakowski]

Thanks for the help everyone.  This should be up on archive.org later today...

Dark Star Orchestra
12/04/2007
State Theater
State College, PA
(Performing 10/02/76 River Front Coliseum - Cincinnati, OH)

Source: Audio Technica U873R/UE-C-> Kind Kables-> Oade Song Catcher Marantz PMD660
Transfer: LexarPro 4GB CF-> USB2.0-> CDWave(track splits)-> FLAC16(level8)
Notes: Clamped from balcony Row AA, Seat 215  25cm@75degrees

Set I

01. Promised Land
02. They Love Each Other
03. Minglewood Blues
04. Row Jimmy
05. El Paso
06. Tennessee Jed
07. All Over Now
08. Brown Eyed Women
09. Let It Grow
10. Might As Well

Set II

01. tuning
02. The Music Never Stopped
03. Candyman
04. Samson and Delilah
05. It Must Have Been the Roses
06. Big River
07. Friend of the Devil
08. Dancin In the Streets>
09. Drums>
10. Other One>
11. Stella Blue>
12. Other One>
13. Sugar Magnolia
14. Filler: How Sweet It Is

[Javier Cinakowski]

http://www.archive.org/details/dso2007-12-04

[taylordb]

Nice recording.  Looks like the State is a good sounding room.  I use to take dates to see movies there way back in the day.

[Jimna]

i like the place. 

murph rockin the AT's.