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looking for opinions on mics???
« on: February 14, 2008, 08:03:12 AM »
Here it is folks...I am working putting together another rig, been out of it for about 5 years!!I dont want to break the bank for sure so what i was thinkin are the following chioces:
Nak 300
akg c1000
sp c4

i really love the sound from the tapes i've heard from the naks!!!!
So what do you all think???????
 Mike
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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2008, 08:43:36 AM »

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2008, 09:16:53 AM »
Here it is folks...I am working putting together another rig, been out of it for about 5 years!!I dont want to break the bank for sure so what i was thinkin are the following chioces:
Nak 300
akg c1000
sp c4

i really love the sound from the tapes i've heard from the naks!!!!
So what do you all think???????
 Mike

If you can find the nak 700's I would go for those!

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2008, 09:33:39 AM »
I really like the sound of my SP C4's for the price I paid for them, but put those Busman mics on the list as someone above suggested.  I plan to move to them eventually.
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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2008, 04:46:13 PM »
get on the LMA and do some listening. I personally think the C4s > AKG 1000. The nak sound is something some people really like, including myself.

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2008, 08:44:13 PM »
heres a nak 300 recording that i am proud of....

http://www.archive.org/details/montbleau2007-12-07

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2008, 11:04:30 AM »
opinions on mics?  nah, i dont think anyone around here has any opinions about mics...

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2008, 03:34:06 PM »
Mike, if you know that you like some recordings that have been made with a particular type of microphone, I think your next step might be to find out how those recordings were made if you can. It's possible that the people running those mikes were using an approach that differs from what you are used to. If you can try an approach like theirs with your (best) present equipment, you might find that you already have more possibilities than you had realized previously.

On the other hand, I must admit that I've sometimes had just the opposite experience. When I was just starting out I used to bug a more experienced engineer in my hometown to let me come with him to concerts that he was recording. Then I would try to use the same equipment and the same techniques--but my results never quite sounded like his, because everyone listens a little differently. But I still learned a lot by doing that.

Anyway my main point is that some mikes may be better than others, but the best mike is the one that's in the right place at the right time. And you may well be able to place the ones that you know best, while with "better" microphones (yes, of course some microphones are objectively better than others) that you don't know well, you might very well be unable to estimate the effect of placing them a certain way.

I mean, as a musician, I know that there are better instruments than the ones I own--but if you give me a better instrument five minutes before a big performance, I'm not going to play very well because the unfamiliarity of the instrument would be such an obstacle that I wouldn't be able to get around to its advantages; that takes practice.

Does that make sense?

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music > microphones > a recorder of some sort

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2008, 03:41:50 PM »
Mike, if you know that you like some recordings that have been made with a particular type of microphone, I think your next step might be to find out how those recordings were made if you can. It's possible that the people running those mikes were using an approach that differs from what you are used to. If you can try an approach like theirs with your (best) present equipment, you might find that you already have more possibilities than you had realized previously.

On the other hand, I must admit that I've sometimes had just the opposite experience. When I was just starting out I used to bug a more experienced engineer in my hometown to let me come with him to concerts that he was recording. Then I would try to use the same equipment and the same techniques--but my results never quite sounded like his, because everyone listens a little differently. But I still learned a lot by doing that.

Anyway my main point is that some mikes may be better than others, but the best mike is the one that's in the right place at the right time. And you may well be able to place the ones that you know best, while with "better" microphones (yes, of course some microphones are objectively better than others) that you don't know well, you might very well be unable to estimate the effect of placing them a certain way.

I mean, as a musician, I know that there are better instruments than the ones I own--but if you give me a better instrument five minutes before a big performance, I'm not going to play very well because the unfamiliarity of the instrument would be such an obstacle that I wouldn't be able to get around to its advantages; that takes practice.

Does that make sense?

--best regards

Agreed.  Not so much the kind of mic, but how you use it  ;)

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2008, 04:27:36 PM »
spend a little more and get some AKG 300 series mics with changeable caps, very small and just a little more than the mics you mention, paired with a MiniMe you will make superior recordings for the investment

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Re: looking for opinions on mics???
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2008, 07:09:03 PM »
Dsatz and easyJim are right on..

I just transfered a master cassette of GD1969-12-11 for the MOTB project.. It is an aud made with a stereo recorder run mono on the lip of the stage and it is amazing! The rig used couldn't have cost more than $25 back then

He was right in the magic spot!

It is always more about who and how and where and less about with what but all things being equal buy the best rig you can for your budget..

Barry Glassberg  records to this day about 3 times a month still using the cm700's  His pulls sound f'ng great. Many times better than the  DPA's next to him...

I brought up the 700's before only because if you want to include Nak on your list I think you will find them better than the 300's...

Good luck!

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