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Title: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 19, 2006, 01:52:42 PM
I have been looking around here and on ebay. What do you think about Giant Squid Audio Labs mic or Church Audio? Also what is a good cheap mini disk recorder?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: OOK on March 19, 2006, 02:48:19 PM
I have a mini disc I pm'd you about.  The mics in question would be a good start with this deck.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: pfife on March 19, 2006, 10:35:48 PM
church put a pair of his mics in the gear loaner program
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 20, 2006, 03:02:03 PM
Also I am going to be geting a laptop for college soon. If I had that, what would you recommend for mics in 200-300 dollar range?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: ljsurfer2002 on March 20, 2006, 04:16:44 PM
audio technica 831 mics $130
batt box $80
Nomad Jukebox 3 $120

it's a little more then 200 but you'll never need any more gear. i'm still going strong with that setup. 4 years later.

the squids will be okay though.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: ljsurfer2002 on March 20, 2006, 04:17:19 PM
good cheap MD's to look for on ebay:

sharp MD-MS15 or MD-MS90
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Aaron41 on March 20, 2006, 05:10:52 PM
audio technica 831 mics $130
batt box $80
Nomad Jukebox 3 $120

it's a little more then 200 but you'll never need any more gear. i'm still going strong with that setup. 4 years later.

the squids will be okay though.

This is exactly what I was going to post. I am very pleased with my AT831 mics. They are wonderful for the price.

You really should consider the JB3 over the MD. Although it is more expensive, it is much easier to transfer your recordings, is lossless, and you don't have to buy media.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 20, 2006, 05:33:56 PM
audio technica 831 mics $130
batt box $80
Nomad Jukebox 3 $120

it's a little more then 200 but you'll never need any more gear. i'm still going strong with that setup. 4 years later.

the squids will be okay though.

This is exactly what I was going to post. I am very pleased with my AT831 mics. They are wonderful for the price.

You really should consider the JB3 over the MD. Although it is more expensive, it is much easier to transfer your recordings, is lossless, and you don't have to buy media.

I am looking for a new mp3 player anyway, so that sounds like a good idea,
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: RedRocketSr on March 20, 2006, 05:34:21 PM
aaron, tyler.. i am jealous of your rigs..  ;D
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Aaron41 on March 20, 2006, 05:41:24 PM
aaron, tyler.. i am jealous of your rigs..  ;D

They are great little packages. Got me through everything from acoustic duos to Nine Inch Nails. :)

Looking to upgrade to some DPA 406xs though.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 20, 2006, 05:42:55 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Audio-Technica-AT-831R-831-Lavalier-Microphone_W0QQitemZ7399497810QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is that what you are talking about?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: RedRocketSr on March 20, 2006, 05:45:33 PM
hhahaha, aaron, look at my gear.

and run run run, this is what they are talking about.

http://www.minidisco.com/sp-cmc2.html
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Aaron41 on March 20, 2006, 05:46:58 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Audio-Technica-AT-831R-831-Lavalier-Microphone_W0QQitemZ7399497810QQcategoryZ41466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is that what you are talking about?

This is what we are talking about:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-2
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Aaron41 on March 20, 2006, 05:47:30 PM
hhahaha, aaron, look at my gear.

and run run run, this is what they are talking about.

http://www.minidisco.com/sp-cmc2.html


I did. ;)
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: ljsurfer2002 on March 20, 2006, 05:47:41 PM
No, you want the

SP-CMC-2

also known as "AT831" with no letters after it. get it as cheap as you'll find it here:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-2


soundprofessionals.com is a great site with great customer service and prices. you can't go wrong with them.

tyler
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: RedRocketSr on March 20, 2006, 05:52:21 PM
some how, i don't understand how or why, but minidisco is $20 cheaper selling SP's gear than SP.

(look at the link I posted vs. the link aaron and tyler posted)
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Aaron41 on March 20, 2006, 05:54:37 PM
No, you want the

SP-CMC-2

also known as "AT831" with no letters after it. get it as cheap as you'll find it here:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-2


soundprofessionals.com is a great site with great customer service and prices. you can't go wrong with them.

tyler

Tyler, your guide on the Jason Mraz message board about taping is what got me started. +Ts for eternity. :)

some how, i don't understand how or why, but minidisco is $20 cheaper selling SP's gear than SP.

(look at the link I posted vs. the link aaron and tyler posted)

They are different mics.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: ljsurfer2002 on March 21, 2006, 02:46:05 AM
No, you want the

SP-CMC-2

also known as "AT831" with no letters after it. get it as cheap as you'll find it here:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-2


soundprofessionals.com is a great site with great customer service and prices. you can't go wrong with them.

tyler

Tyler, your guide on the Jason Mraz message board about taping is what got me started. +Ts for eternity. :)

some how, i don't understand how or why, but minidisco is $20 cheaper selling SP's gear than SP.

(look at the link I posted vs. the link aaron and tyler posted)

They are different mics.

yeah, aaron is right. I really don't know what $20 buys you to differentiate from the SoundPro SP-CMC-2A mics's (brad's link) and the SP-CMC-2 mics... looking at them, the only thing I can think of is that the -2 are a little more 'staut' with the windscreen off? .. I don't know .. the -2A mics looks plastic bodied where the -2 mics are metal I believe? ... who knows .. but regardless.. great mics!

and stoked you read that mraz post man .. wow, I put that up there at most 3 weeks after I recorded my first gig (mraz 2002-08-29). Such a newbie but giving out the advice that I had received at the time. crazy. I know a lot more now .. I should really update the post or at least put more to it.. there have been a few Q&A's in that thread over the years. glad you're taping buddy!

tyler
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on March 21, 2006, 06:03:12 AM
some how, i don't understand how or why, but minidisco is $20 cheaper selling SP's gear than SP.

(look at the link I posted vs. the link aaron and tyler posted)

 The price difference is because the mics you have. SP-CMC-2A, from minidisco "utilizes a matched set of Sound Professionals Precision Cardioid microphones" and the SP-CMC-2 mics from SP "utilizes a matched set of Audio Technica AT831 Cardioid microphones". So the CMC-2A is not technically AT 831's. I think the SP branded mics use Panasonic elements correct?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 24, 2006, 05:08:58 PM
Are there any options for harddrive or flash recorders for $100-150ish?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on March 24, 2006, 06:27:37 PM
Are there any options for harddrive or flash recorders for $100-150ish?

 The ever popular JB3 can be bought for $150
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: ljsurfer2002 on March 24, 2006, 11:40:52 PM
Quote
The ever popular JB3 can be bought for $150

it's popular for a reason! ... damn thing got discontinued for some reason though .. a great product .. good thing the iriver has been cracked to be perfect for taping shows too..
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on March 25, 2006, 01:28:22 AM
Are there any options for harddrive or flash recorders for $100-150ish?

pardon my meanness but -  :lol:
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on March 25, 2006, 08:53:54 PM
Well the iaudio m5 record good enough?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Nick Graham on March 25, 2006, 09:04:49 PM
Are there any options for harddrive or flash recorders for $100-150ish?

pardon my meanness but -  :lol:

Actually, I think you can get an IRiver iHP120 on eBay for right in that range....
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on March 25, 2006, 09:17:15 PM
Are there any options for harddrive or flash recorders for $100-150ish?

pardon my meanness but -  :lol:

Actually, I think you can get an IRiver iHP120 on eBay for right in that range....

flash recorder in that range tho....try multiplying it by at least 2 (on the high end of that listed range)
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: wolfgang on March 27, 2006, 03:16:00 PM
good cheap MD's to look for on ebay:

sharp MD-MS15 or MD-MS90

Be careful with Sharp Minidiscs. Especially the older ones. They are notorious for having lots of problems.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: dunebug81 on April 07, 2006, 04:56:42 PM
good cheap MD's to look for on ebay:

sharp MD-MS15 or MD-MS90

Be careful with Sharp Minidiscs. Especially the older ones. They are notorious for having lots of problems.

Ive got a Sharp MT90 and used it for about 3 years and never had a single problem with it....other then operator error.  I think the first gen HIMDs are in the price range now. 
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 11, 2006, 08:31:30 PM
Hello to everyone here :)

this is my first post so forgive me if I'm doing something wrong, I've tried to read carefully all the newbies instructions (also saw 'Posting and you'  :lol: :coolguy:) but sometimes had problems with the language so maybe not everything was understood

anyway I live in Warsaw, Poland (is there anyone from PL here?) and don't know much about how to record a show, so please help me ::)
I only tried once on digital mono dictaphone but it was completly awful

but next month one of my favourite bands (dEUS) will play in Warsaw so I want to tape it much better than my first taoed gig, but I don't have to much money to spend for it (about 100$ maximum 120$)
so can anyone advise me please if I can purchase some reasonable stuff [1-5] for that price (well I know that only used stuff is possible for 100$) and where to look for it
I've searched eBay and there are not too much mics that look nice, but maybe anyone here has some older equipment to spare

also any tips for absolute begginer how to solve my problem and where exactly look for it here in forum will be appreciated :D
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Nick Graham on April 11, 2006, 08:51:50 PM
also any tips for absolute begginer how to solve my problem and where exactly look for it here in forum will be appreciated :D

Sony ECM-907 mic: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-ECM-MS907-Digital-stereo-microphone-ECMMS907-NEW_W0QQitemZ7405352153QQcategoryZ15198QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Sony MZ-R70 Mini Disc Deck:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Portable-Minidisc-Recorder-MZ-R70_W0QQitemZ9710970091QQcategoryZ15056QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Buy It Now total for both = $118.65

Get these an you'll be up and running....
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: nihilistic0 on April 11, 2006, 11:09:55 PM
Not a fan of the ECM mics at all


core-sound makes a decent low cost mic, it costs around 75 bucks.  I used the low cost cardioid for a while, and I have gotten some pretty decent recordings from it. 

In fact, one of my best recordings is the low cost card > mic-in sony md @ lp2.  taped deftones FOB
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 12, 2006, 02:18:26 AM
thanx guys for some infos :)

and what do you think about this mic?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9711516596&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

it looks much better for me than this Sony ECM-907 and even is easier to hide and just clip it 8)

or maybe this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9711508808&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

and I think that I can get used MD in Poland for half price of it what's on eBAy but mics and other stuff are the big problem here
any more tips?

Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 12, 2006, 12:12:34 PM
thanx guys for some infos :)

and what do you think about this mic?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9711516596&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

it looks much better for me than this Sony ECM-907 and even is easier to hide and just clip it 8)

or maybe this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9711508808&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

and I think that I can get used MD in Poland for half price of it what's on eBAy but mics and other stuff are the big problem here
any more tips?


 If you can swing it, my vote would defenitly be for the CMC-4's(http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9711516596&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1) over the Sony mic, and over the Core Sound mics. You will be extremely satisfied with the CMC-4's, plus this auction includes the battery box. Go for it!
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 18, 2006, 07:02:01 PM
thankyou, I followed your tip TheWildKindness and got it!!!
but it was not that easy and almost all my money spend on it, but mic is the most important as I uderstood here
it looks much more profesional than I thought at the beggining before signing here and just can't wait to get it and check it out, even before dEUS gig

I'm sure you understand what I mean...

but now need to get some used very cheap MD
so please give me one more advice about this equipment
I'm not so fluent with this specifications in english but it looks like possible for me are

SONY NF-610
SONY MZ-R37
SONY MZ-R410
SONY MZ-S1

SHARP MD-MT 20
SHARP MD-MT 90

JVC XM-R70

or maybe if found some more money (but it looks rather bad) also these ones

SONY MZ-R55
SONY MZ-N505
SONY MZ-N510

they are all used (some of them more, some of them less) priced here in Poland all below 100$ and as confirmed by sellers working fine without any problems
timie is ticking and after this mic I don't want to lose the quality on some crappy MD

any help will be very appreciated :)
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on April 18, 2006, 08:39:03 PM
Try MZ-R70...

older version, but a goodie, I have used from my friend, they go for like 40 winning bid usually.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 19, 2006, 12:44:44 AM
thankyou, I followed your tip TheWildKindness and got it!!!
but it was not that easy and almost all my money spend on it, but mic is the most important as I uderstood here
it looks much more profesional than I thought at the beggining before signing here and just can't wait to get it and check it out, even before dEUS gig

I'm sure you understand what I mean...

but now need to get some used very cheap MD
so please give me one more advice about this equipment
I'm not so fluent with this specifications in english but it looks like possible for me are

SONY NF-610
SONY MZ-R37
SONY MZ-R410
SONY MZ-S1

SHARP MD-MT 20
SHARP MD-MT 90

JVC XM-R70

or maybe if found some more money (but it looks rather bad) also these ones

SONY MZ-R55
SONY MZ-N505
SONY MZ-N510

they are all used (some of them more, some of them less) priced here in Poland all below 100$ and as confirmed by sellers working fine without any problems
timie is ticking and after this mic I don't want to lose the quality on some crappy MD

any help will be very appreciated :)

 Glad that I could help out. I checked out your winning bid...wow! great price! $100 for those mics with the battery box is a steal.
 As far as the MD...I would stay away from most of the early model Sony ones since you cannot adjust the levels on the fly with them. The Sharp ones are what I would recommend. I started out with a Sony MZ-R70...and it wasn't what I wanted..I think I used it twice and put it back on Ebay. The thing was loud. When I sold that and bought my Sharp model, it was a much nicer and easier to use, as well as allowing me to adjust my levels.

 The 2 Sharp models you have seem pretty reasonable. I'm not sure of the  MT20, but if you mean the M20, it might be worth it. That one actually has optical/line and mic in and optical, hdphn/line out, which is pretty rare..here is a link to details on the M20 (http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-M25.html)

 The MT90 looks like a decent unit as well : http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT80+MT90.html

 Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 05:05:29 AM
Try MZ-R70...

older version, but a goodie, I have used from my friend, they go for like 40 winning bid usually.

and what is the difference between MZ R-37 and MZ R-70 cause it looks like now there are no R-70 and only R-37 is avaiable

The Sharp ones are what I would recommend. I started out with a Sony MZ-R70...and it wasn't what I wanted..I think I used it twice and put it back on Ebay. The thing was loud. When I sold that and bought my Sharp model, it was a much nicer and easier to use, as well as allowing me to adjust my levels.

 The 2 Sharp models you have seem pretty reasonable. I'm not sure of the  MT20, but if you mean the M20, it might be worth it. That one actually has optical/line and mic in and optical, hdphn/line out, which is pretty rare..here is a link to details on the M20 (http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-M25.html)

 The MT90 looks like a decent unit as well :http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT80+MT90.html

 Good luck and have fun!

well this Sharp MD M20 that is avaiable to me is not the one you linked but this one
http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT15+MT16+MT20.html

is it also better than Sony's?
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: SkttrWave on April 19, 2006, 05:19:00 AM
My suggestion would be the Sony MZ-NH600. This is the cheapest HiMD recorder which records in LPCM mode, has line-in (all you need when you have mics + batt. box), allows you to set levels on the fly and you can upload recordings through USB. Tho, be very carefull NOT to buy the NH600D since this model is a downloading model only, so it has no line-in.
You should be able to find one on ebay for less than $100.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 09:55:21 AM
My suggestion would be the Sony MZ-NH600. This is the cheapest HiMD recorder which records in LPCM mode, has line-in (all you need when you have mics + batt. box), allows you to set levels on the fly and you can upload recordings through USB. Tho, be very carefull NOT to buy the NH600D since this model is a downloading model only, so it has no line-in.
You should be able to find one on ebay for less than $100.

well in Poland it costs over 100 $ and after buying SP-CMC 4 mic my budget is really small so I think I can't afford this one
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 19, 2006, 12:36:53 PM

SHARP MD-MT 20


JVC XM-R70


SONY MZ-R55 (Stay away from this one: In manual recording level mode, unit must be paused to change the level setting)

SONY MZ-N510 (has no mic input, but you should be using line in anyway...plus this one does allow recording level change while recording)


 I think any of the above would be good choices. After looking at the JVC model...that looks like a good choice IMO.
Features: Jog-dial on side of unit for character entry and editing. LCD on main body is 10 x 2 characters. 20 bit ADC and DAC. 24 bit calculation ATRAC. Digital and analog syncho recording. Manual recording level control only, level can be adjusted during recording.
http://www.minidisc.org/part_JVC_XM-R70.html
 
 The other ones would work fine for you as well though...so just do as much research as possible and make your decision. :)
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 01:22:46 PM

 I think any of the above would be good choices. After looking at the JVC model...that looks like a good choice IMO.
Features: Jog-dial on side of unit for character entry and editing. LCD on main body is 10 x 2 characters. 20 bit ADC and DAC. 24 bit calculation ATRAC. Digital and analog syncho recording. Manual recording level control only, level can be adjusted during recording.
http://www.minidisc.org/part_JVC_XM-R70.html
 
 The other ones would work fine for you as well though...so just do as much research as possible and make your decision. :)

well this JVC looks nice but I think is one of the oldest models, and how it looks when I want to transfer my recording from MD to Computer to edit the tracks in Cool Edit? do I need any special program or what? (it's this part that is still most unknown for me)

and what about these Sharp MT20 and MT90, once you said that it's better than poorer Sony MD's but read somewhere that this MT90 is not compatibile with the format or something which I don't really understand :-\
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 02:32:08 PM
I've contacted the seller and heard that from this JVC MD I can only transfer my recordings via mini jack cable when strat play on MD and recording on computer
it's not that big problem for me cause anyway I plan to edit these recordings in Cool Edit Pro 2 but is it really big loos to transfer data this way? not digitally
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 19, 2006, 03:03:25 PM
I've contacted the seller and heard that from this JVC MD I can only transfer my recordings via mini jack cable when strat play on MD and recording on computer
it's not that big problem for me cause anyway I plan to edit these recordings in Cool Edit Pro 2 but is it really big loos to transfer data this way? not digitally

 Unless you buy a MiniDisc deck with digital/optical out, you'll have to use the line out on the MD...I'm not sure of the new models, but pretty much all MD recorders only allow you to do analog transfers (line/headphone out). How much are you looking to spend? You could always try and find a NJB3 for a reasonable price. You would then be able to transfer your recordings via USB.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: dunebug81 on April 19, 2006, 03:30:08 PM
I've contacted the seller and heard that from this JVC MD I can only transfer my recordings via mini jack cable when strat play on MD and recording on computer
it's not that big problem for me cause anyway I plan to edit these recordings in Cool Edit Pro 2 but is it really big loos to transfer data this way? not digitally

Only the HIMD recorders have the ability to upload the songs to the computer.  As someone else said you can get a MD deck.  I have the JE-510 that has optical out which I used to use for any non-himd transfers.  You should be able to pick up a deck for ~$100 on ebay.  Shipping might be pretty expensive having to ship it to Europe as it will have to ship in a rather large box. 
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on April 19, 2006, 03:44:21 PM
spend the money now and get jb3...after one show of switching MD's you will have had enough.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 04:59:28 PM
forgive me guys but don't know almost nothing about jb3? (only this that tihs is some stuff with hard drive or maybe even now I'm wrong)

all this electronic equipment with its software is rather completly out of my knowledge (MS windows sometimes also look very enigmatic to me)
and the only program that I know rather good and use normally is Cool Edit Pro 2, which I use to record on computer from tapes old polish bootlegs and then adding a little mastering

but there is no problem to transfer recordings from MD to copmuter for me cause I already know how to do it and results are very good

but if you can give me some advices about jb3 it would be pretty nice
(although I think it will be impossible for my budget which after buying a mic is only about 50$) but if I can get something resonable for that price just let me know

and for now (if I need to put it through analog to computer) it looks like this JVC XM-R70 is the best choice so if anyone knows anything bad about it please do not keep it in silence and let me know
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on April 19, 2006, 05:27:42 PM
http://www.taperssection.com/index.php?board=14;action=display;threadid=16338

go there for jb3 FAQ.

I was intent on buying a 300 dollar HI-MD with backlight, etc.

But, I found this forum and the jb3 praises and it changed my mind.

JB3's are on ebay all the time, got mine with 2 batteries for 185 shipped.

Save your money and go that route is my opinion.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 05:55:55 PM
thankyou rdflash but this is three times more than I have so I have to start with MD and then maybe change to jb3 after some time

so anyone knows which would be better?
JVC XM-R70   http://www.minidisc.org/part_JVC_XM-R70.html
or
SHARP MT20   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT15+MT16+MT20.html
or
SHARP MT90   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT80+MT90.html
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: rdflash on April 19, 2006, 06:09:15 PM
thankyou rdflash but this is three times more than I have so I have to start with MD and then maybe change to jb3 after some time

so anyone knows which would be better?
JVC XM-R70   http://www.minidisc.org/part_JVC_XM-R70.html
or
SHARP MT20   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT15+MT16+MT20.html
or
SHARP MT90   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT80+MT90.html


I wouldnt know anything about MD's except Sony ones.  Glad to help.  Yah, get your feet wet with MD and then you will be ready to upgrade to jb3, which is waht a majority of people use here.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 19, 2006, 06:18:09 PM
thankyou rdflash but this is three times more than I have so I have to start with MD and then maybe change to jb3 after some time

so anyone knows which would be better?
JVC XM-R70   http://www.minidisc.org/part_JVC_XM-R70.html
or
SHARP MT20   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT15+MT16+MT20.html
or
SHARP MT90   http://www.minidisc.org/part_Sharp_MD-MT80+MT90.html


 I think any of those would work for you. Perhaps email each seller and ask them about the units and go with whichever one feels safe as far as age of unit, condition and price.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on April 19, 2006, 07:23:44 PM
I think any of those would work for you. Perhaps email each seller and ask them about the units and go with whichever one feels safe as far as age of unit, condition and price.

thanks again :D
that's what I've already done and now I'm close to pick JVC

After looking at the JVC model...that looks like a good choice IMO.
Features: Jog-dial on side of unit for character entry and editing. LCD on main body is 10 x 2 characters. 20 bit ADC and DAC. 24 bit calculation ATRAC. Digital and analog syncho recording. Manual recording level control only, level can be adjusted during recording.

and even after you wrote that you prefer SHARP than SONY this quote gave me also very much, I've checked sites and found that even during recording via line-in I can set manualy recording volume
and the seller also seems to be a fair guy (I phoned him and talked a little about this MD) so tomorrow morning I'm gonna hit it

thank you all very much for your help (by now ;)) and specially TheWildKindness
looks like I had to spent more money than expected but also seems to be much better quality recording than I thought I can achieve

now only need to wait until packages will come and start my taping expirience
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: TheWildKindness on April 19, 2006, 08:17:57 PM

thanks again :D
that's what I've already done and now I'm close to pick JVC

After looking at the JVC model...that looks like a good choice IMO.
Features: Jog-dial on side of unit for character entry and editing. LCD on main body is 10 x 2 characters. 20 bit ADC and DAC. 24 bit calculation ATRAC. Digital and analog syncho recording. Manual recording level control only, level can be adjusted during recording.

and even after you wrote that you prefer SHARP than SONY this quote gave me also very much, I've checked sites and found that even during recording via line-in I can set manualy recording volume
and the seller also seems to be a fair guy (I phoned him and talked a little about this MD) so tomorrow morning I'm gonna hit it

thank you all very much for your help (by now ;)) and specially TheWildKindness
looks like I had to spent more money than expected but also seems to be much better quality recording than I thought I can achieve

now only need to wait until packages will come and start my taping expirience

 Glad that I could help. The JVC sounds like a good choice and with the mics you picked up, you have a great starter rig! After you save some money, all you'll really need to do is update your recorder, because those mics are pretty versatile and will make some nice recordings. +T on joining the team.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on May 12, 2006, 09:53:15 PM
Would this work?

Samson CO2's >CHURCH AUDIO  PREAMP > Thinkpad
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on May 13, 2006, 12:25:09 AM
The Samson's require phantom power 48v.  Church;s preamp only supplies 9v's. 
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on May 13, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
You can get my three wire preamp and use AT mics or my cardioids with it.

Chris Church
I will give you a good price since your starting out or check out SP they make some great stuff too.




Would this work?
Samson CO2's >CHURCH AUDIO  PREAMP > Thinkpad
So you sell a 3 wire power devise that would work with the Samson CO2's.

So It would be Samson CO2's > power thing > pre > thinkpad?

Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on May 13, 2006, 03:16:21 PM
I appreciate your offer, but I don't plan on buying anything untill next month. Do you have links to recordings made with your mics?

umm No i was thinking of the small sampson mics sorry but I can sell you a better sounding pair of cardioid mics then the ones your using now :) with a preamp.



You can get my three wire preamp and use AT mics or my cardioids with it.

Chris Church
I will give you a good price since your starting out or check out SP they make some great stuff too.




Would this work?
Samson CO2's >CHURCH AUDIO  PREAMP > Thinkpad
So you sell a 3 wire power devise that would work with the Samson CO2's.

So It would be Samson CO2's > power thing > pre > thinkpad?


Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: gevenkaven on May 16, 2006, 12:23:28 PM
Glad that I could help. The JVC sounds like a good choice and with the mics you picked up, you have a great starter rig! After you save some money, all you'll really need to do is update your recorder, because those mics are pretty versatile and will make some nice recordings. +T on joining the team.

ok I got this rig and recorded two shows dEUS (on 11.05) and New Model Army (on 12.05) both in Warsaw and really liked this job ;D

but on the first gig got problems with my MD, it turned off during the main set (I'v lost one and a half song) and when I changed disc to record encores it was working fine and recording, but when we were leaving the place it was turned off again and all the recording on 2nd disc was lost -> blank disc
but I heard that there are ways to recover if it's not recorded again

and NMA show was great and as my 2nd taping experience it was also great, got no problems with MD, recorded the whole show, and if anyone interested in I can send links to download these shows, just let me know
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on May 16, 2006, 05:39:51 PM
For mics  I will run ether Samson CO2's or Studio Projects C4s.

Both need Phantom Power
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ARTPHANIII

Now do I need a pre amp with that ^. I will by runing into a thinkpad or a new apple macbook.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: napa on May 16, 2006, 07:36:27 PM
Do C-4's. But I like the C-1 cards better than the C-4.
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: Javier Cinakowski on May 16, 2006, 10:28:28 PM
Quote
Now do I need a pre amp with that ^. I will by runing into a thinkpad or a new apple macbook.


yes, you would need a preamp. 

or a line convertor?


mics->phantom->line convertor->recorder      ?  That might be a cheaper solution
Title: Re: Looking to get started for under $ 200
Post by: run_run_run on May 17, 2006, 04:21:19 PM
http://www.zzounds.com/item--ARTV3

that do it all?