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Title: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 09, 2013, 08:06:15 PM
I have been using a standard stage mic stand for years and have a T bar that fits it.  It only gets about 7 ft high and is a little flimsy.  I seem to wear em out pretty fast.  Anyway...I need a new mic stand that's a little more sturdy and raises up a tad higher.  I dont wanna spend a shitload of money.  Need recommendations on a decent stand.....
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: F.O.Bean on February 10, 2013, 02:07:23 AM
Calumet MF6045

10' extended all the way up. Its my FOB stand. I too, am looking for like a 12'-15' sturdy stand :)

Best of luck!
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: achalsey on February 10, 2013, 12:42:23 PM
This has treated me pretty well.  Its a little flimsy if you get it full extended but hasn't caused me any trouble so far.  Last night we had 4 sets of (active) mics on it at about 9' feet up no problem.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: DigiGal on February 10, 2013, 12:52:49 PM
There's a Shure S15A telescoping mic stand in the yard sale right now, no affiliation...

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=160625.0
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: brad.bartels on February 10, 2013, 12:56:49 PM
This is the one I've been using, has served me well so far. 12' and I almost always run it fully extended. Pretty solid and even fully extended, I don't think it's ever come close to being knocked over and it's taken some fair shots. Base is adjustable to just about any footprint, of couse the smaller the base, the less stable it's going to be. Not sure what your price range is, it's $85 and B&H right now:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/644444-REG/Manfrotto_1004BAC_Alu_Master_3_Riser.html
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 10, 2013, 02:03:33 PM
This has treated me pretty well.  Its a little flimsy if you get it full extended but hasn't caused me any trouble so far.  Last night we had 4 sets of (active) mics on it at about 9' feet up no problem.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html
Will my T bar screw into it? 
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: achalsey on February 10, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
This has treated me pretty well.  Its a little flimsy if you get it full extended but hasn't caused me any trouble so far.  Last night we had 4 sets of (active) mics on it at about 9' feet up no problem.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html
Will my T bar screw into it?

Not positive, but I would assume not.  Does it have a 5/8" screw?  You most likely need an adapter.  The one linked below should work.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/232829-REG/K_M_21700_000_01_21700N_Threaded_Adapter.html
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: JusTapin on February 12, 2013, 12:22:11 AM
This is the one I've been using, has served me well so far. 12' and I almost always run it fully extended. Pretty solid and even fully extended, I don't think it's ever come close to being knocked over and it's taken some fair shots. Base is adjustable to just about any footprint, of couse the smaller the base, the less stable it's going to be. Not sure what your price range is, it's $85 and B&H right now:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/644444-REG/Manfrotto_1004BAC_Alu_Master_3_Riser.html

I just bought this one and it's a nice solid stand. 
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 14, 2013, 07:18:49 PM
This has treated me pretty well.  Its a little flimsy if you get it full extended but hasn't caused me any trouble so far.  Last night we had 4 sets of (active) mics on it at about 9' feet up no problem.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html
Will my T bar screw into it?

Not positive, but I would assume not.  Does it have a 5/8" screw?  You most likely need an adapter.  The one linked below should work.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/232829-REG/K_M_21700_000_01_21700N_Threaded_Adapter.html

I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?  Are there other or better mounting options for my CA14s?
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: achalsey on February 14, 2013, 07:41:57 PM
I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?  Are there other or better mounting options for my CA14s?

Bummer.  I'm not sure of many places that carry those kind of adapters besides specialty photo stores.  You can try a specialty screw/bolt shop if you have one of those around.  Do you know what kind of T-bar you have?  Is it something like this:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html

As far as CA-14s someone else will probably know better than me.  I ran CA14s taped to a t-bar for a while but there are certainly better solutions.  They're so small that any number of DIY mounts work pretty easily.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 14, 2013, 07:46:36 PM
I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?

If by "that stand" you mean this one...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html

...the specs indicate the attachment is 5/8 in (1.6 cm) stud with 1/4-20 in threaded tip.  If your T-bar has a 5/8"-27 female thread, then options include:

Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 14, 2013, 07:58:27 PM
I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?

If by "that stand" you mean this one...

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/253067-REG/Impact_LS10AB_Air_Cushioned_Light_Stand.html

...the specs indicate the attachment is 5/8 in (1.6 cm) stud with 1/4-20 in threaded tip.  If your T-bar has a 5/8"-27 female thread, then options include:

  • 1/4"-20 female | 5/8"-27 male thread adapter (not always easy to find as a single piece)
  • 1/4"-20 female | 3/8"-16 male thread adapter + 3/8"-16 female | 5/8"-27 male thread adapter (sold together at B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/535392-REG/General_Brand_Microphone_Reducer_Bushing.html))
  • But I think the best solution, although a bit more expensive, is a Manfrott Rapid Adapter with 3/8"-16 male tip (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/546490-REG/Manfrotto_014_38_014_38_Rapid_Adapter.html) + 3/8"-16 female | 5/8"-27 male thread adapter (the price is right on the one linked by alchasey (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/232829-REG/K_M_21700_000_01_21700N_Threaded_Adapter.html), but I happen to prefer a taller profile like this one (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/232827-REG/K_M_21500_000_01_Reducer_Bushing_Converts_1_2.html) for some uses).  The rapid adapter makes it really easy to get mics on and off the stand very quickly, which I like to do after the show and everyone's mulling about, trying to push past my gear, etc.
Thanks for the info!  Do any walk in type places carry stuff like that?  I'm taping The Ringers in Athens on Tuesday night and an online order wont ship in time...
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 14, 2013, 08:03:24 PM
You might find a simple 1/4"-20 | 3/8"-16 and/or 3/8"-16 | 5/8"-27 adapter at a proper photo or musician's store.  The rapid adapter, pretty sure you'll have to order online.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 14, 2013, 08:07:35 PM
You might find a simple 1/4"-20 | 3/8"-16 and/or 3/8"-16 | 5/8"-27 adapter at a proper photo or musician's store.  The rapid adapter, pretty sure you'll have to order online.
This looks like what I need, eh?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage-Stands-Mic-Screw-Adapter-107434847-i1635537.gc
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 14, 2013, 08:20:30 PM
This looks like what I need, eh?
http://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage-Stands-Mic-Screw-Adapter-107434847-i1635537.gc

Nope.  If you have the stand to which I linked in my post and quoted the specs (5/8"-male stud with 1/4"-20 male tip), then you need one of the options I posted previously.  The thread adapter above is 5/8"-female | 3/8"-male, so not only are the male / female parts reversed, but you have no way to attach it to the 1/4"-20 male tip on the stand.

At GC, this is half of what you need:  http://www.guitarcenter.com/On-Stage-Stands-Mic-Screw-Adapter-103736955-i1635539.gc

You'd still need the 1/4"-20 female | 3/8"-16 male adapter, which I can't find on the GC site.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: smat on February 14, 2013, 09:14:01 PM
I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?  Are there other or better mounting options for my CA14s?

Bummer.  I'm not sure of many places that carry those kind of adapters besides specialty photo stores.  You can try a specialty screw/bolt shop if you have one of those around.  Do you know what kind of T-bar you have?  Is it something like this:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html

As far as CA-14s someone else will probably know better than me.  I ran CA14s taped to a t-bar for a while but there are certainly better solutions.  They're so small that any number of DIY mounts work pretty easily.
Here's a shot of my t bar and the adapter: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/231011_486498338077791_1780480721_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/231011_486498338077791_1780480721_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: page on February 14, 2013, 11:30:37 PM
I ordered that stand and the guy told me my Tbar would fit the stand.  Well, it dosnt ;/  I dont know what the measurements are.  That one you linked *looks* right ?  Is there a local place like radio shack or somewhere that carries that stuff I can walk in with stuff in hand so i can be sure to get the right one?  Are there other or better mounting options for my CA14s?

Bummer.  I'm not sure of many places that carry those kind of adapters besides specialty photo stores.  You can try a specialty screw/bolt shop if you have one of those around.  Do you know what kind of T-bar you have?  Is it something like this:  http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/286149-REG/AKG_KM235_1_KM235_1_Stereo_Microphone_Bar.html

As far as CA-14s someone else will probably know better than me.  I ran CA14s taped to a t-bar for a while but there are certainly better solutions.  They're so small that any number of DIY mounts work pretty easily.
Here's a shot of my t bar and the adapter: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/231011_486498338077791_1780480721_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c67.0.403.403/p403x403/231011_486498338077791_1780480721_n.jpg)

that looks like a 5/8-27 female screw, but that tbar is suspect... Virtually all mic stuff in America is made to fit 5/8-27 threads, so I'd guess it is and it's just roughly tapped so it doesn't feel like it should fit. I'd get something like the two piece combo that Brian's referencing. Go to a decent photo shop and tell them you need two adaptors:

1/4"-20 (male) to 3/8"-16
3/8"-16 to 5/8"-27 (male)

Worst case scenario (and what I'd do if it wasn't a 5/8-27 based tbar); drop the odd tbar and get a standard piece. You probably won't find adaptors that really go outside of the above three stud/threads.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 14, 2013, 11:45:56 PM
Go to a decent photo shop and tell them you need two adaptors:

1/4"-20 (male) to 3/8"-16
3/8"-16 to 5/8"-27 (male)

Looks like there are two adapters in the pic:  a 5/8"-27 female | 3/8"-16 male, and a 3/8"-16 female | 5/8"-27 male.  In which case, you'd only need the 1/4"-20 male | 3/8"-16 female adapter.  And page is right:  try a good photo gear store, I bet they'll have one.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: Red Boink on February 16, 2013, 11:49:26 AM
Matthews 387032 highly recommended.  13.5' tall 58lb. Max load, so very versatile and sturdy although still run tie downs and sand bags.  I don't like monfrotto  hardware, go with their avenger proline, much better made.
Title: Re: Need a Mic Stand Upgrade
Post by: thunderbolt on February 17, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
...and if you're willing to add another 3.6 pounds of weight over the Matthews, check out this bad boy:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/600608-REG/Avenger_A0045CS_A0045CS_Baby_Steel_Stand.html

I don't think I'm going to need sandbags on this one.  :P