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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #240 on: May 16, 2008, 07:35:16 AM »

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This has nothing to do with the 24 or 16 bit settings, it has to do with the deck adding gain or taking out gain on its own
You'd rather not add or reduce gain and record with increased headroom? If so you're wasting bits.

The idea is to use the best quality gain available. For a lot of people, that is with their external preamps (Aerco, V2, V3, MiniMP, etc.). I'd rather use the gain from my preamp and use the recorder for an ADC only, then add or subtract gain with the recorder in addition to the ADC function.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #241 on: May 16, 2008, 12:37:42 PM »
The idea is to use the best quality gain available. For a lot of people, that is with their external preamps (Aerco, V2, V3, MiniMP, etc.). I'd rather use the gain from my preamp and use the recorder for an ADC only, then add or subtract gain with the recorder in addition to the ADC function.
It might be, due to the supposed quieter analog section, that the gain of the HR might be more usable to the people preferring to carry around a pre-amp.
It's all, of course, depending on your ears and the rest of the situation you're in

I've never used gain of any deck I've used, I think. Yes, weird.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #242 on: May 16, 2008, 12:45:50 PM »
The idea is to use the best quality gain available. For a lot of people, that is with their external preamps (Aerco, V2, V3, MiniMP, etc.). I'd rather use the gain from my preamp and use the recorder for an ADC only, then add or subtract gain with the recorder in addition to the ADC function.
It might be, due to the supposed quieter analog section, that the gain of the HR might be more usable to the people preferring to carry around a pre-amp.
It's all, of course, depending on your ears and the rest of the situation you're in

I've never used gain of any deck I've used, I think. Yes, weird.

I highly doubt anyone here is going to prefer using the R-09HR's gain instead of the high quality preamps I mentioned above. I suppose you never know until you try it for yourself, though.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #243 on: May 16, 2008, 05:30:31 PM »
New sample, from my recording of Big Dave last night. Alas, I don't know the name of the track yet.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LKAQKKFM

Went CA-11's > R09HR mic-in, ran at input 45. Turned out nicely, I think.

Nothing done to the wav apart from a slight volume bump (amplified by 1.4db in audacity) then flac'd.

Wicked band, comprising drummer Seb Rochford and bassist Ruth Goller of Acoustic Ladyland, and Pat Walden, formerly of Babyshambles.

www.myspace.com/bigdaveband
 
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Hope I'm not bothering you.
Do you have those recordings at archive.org? I'd love to hear those samples, but it seems to be impossible with megaupload.
Thanks in advance  ;)

big Dave aren't on the archive, I don't think. It was only their second gig.

I can do a yousendit or a sendspace or something this evening. Will put a few other tunes up, too.
 
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #244 on: May 16, 2008, 05:54:17 PM »
Has anyone learned when this machine will hit the market in the States?
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #245 on: May 16, 2008, 07:32:33 PM »
New sample, from my recording of Big Dave last night. Alas, I don't know the name of the track yet.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LKAQKKFM

Went CA-11's > R09HR mic-in, ran at input 45. Turned out nicely, I think.

Nothing done to the wav apart from a slight volume bump (amplified by 1.4db in audacity) then flac'd.

Wicked band, comprising drummer Seb Rochford and bassist Ruth Goller of Acoustic Ladyland, and Pat Walden, formerly of Babyshambles.

www.myspace.com/bigdaveband
 
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Hope I'm not bothering you.
Do you have those recordings at archive.org? I'd love to hear those samples, but it seems to be impossible with megaupload.
Thanks in advance  ;)

big Dave aren't on the archive, I don't think. It was only their second gig.

I can do a yousendit or a sendspace or something this evening. Will put a few other tunes up, too.
 
;D



Oh, please do!
Appreciate it ;D ;D ;D

http://download.yousendit.com/79E6AD245A95B9B2

Yousend'ed it the first track. Way too many beers this evening to do any more, though. Probably a couple more tomorrow.
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #246 on: May 17, 2008, 03:11:21 AM »
I highly doubt anyone here is going to prefer using the R-09HR's gain instead of the high quality preamps I mentioned above. I suppose you never know until you try it for yourself, though.
I think I can agree. No one that has invested into some extra gear to carry around will easily admit that a simpler setup sounds quite OK.
But I am not talking preferences.
I am talking numbers.
Just some verifiable performance stats. SNR, linearity, THD, etc, etc.
I don't claim to have golden ears.
I just listen and think it's OK or perhaps better than the R-09.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #247 on: May 17, 2008, 08:36:47 AM »
Has anyone learned when this machine will hit the market in the States?

Full Compass is now telling me that their first shipment will be sent to them the first week of June.......2008...   ;)    2nd Full Compass shipment will be the following week...  We'll see.


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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #248 on: May 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM »
New sample, from my recording of Big Dave last night. Alas, I don't know the name of the track yet.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LKAQKKFM

Went CA-11's > R09HR mic-in, ran at input 45. Turned out nicely, I think.

Nothing done to the wav apart from a slight volume bump (amplified by 1.4db in audacity) then flac'd.

Wicked band, comprising drummer Seb Rochford and bassist Ruth Goller of Acoustic Ladyland, and Pat Walden, formerly of Babyshambles.

www.myspace.com/bigdaveband
 
8)



Hope I'm not bothering you.
Do you have those recordings at archive.org? I'd love to hear those samples, but it seems to be impossible with megaupload.
Thanks in advance  ;)

big Dave aren't on the archive, I don't think. It was only their second gig.

I can do a yousendit or a sendspace or something this evening. Will put a few other tunes up, too.
 
;D



Oh, please do!
Appreciate it ;D ;D ;D

http://download.yousendit.com/79E6AD245A95B9B2

Yousend'ed it the first track. Way too many beers this evening to do any more, though. Probably a couple more tomorrow.

Thanks a lot. Sounds really good  ;D
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #249 on: May 20, 2008, 02:36:29 PM »
Just to say I went to the store where I had placed my order for the HR and it was there waiting for me.  $399 can.
Someone had failed to call me and say it was in store.  Been there a couple days.
So now you know it is in Southern Ontario at least.
Now I can open the box and see what is inside.


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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #250 on: May 20, 2008, 03:57:45 PM »
I'd like to see how they reinforced the jacks and the type of epoxy used (if any).
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #251 on: May 20, 2008, 05:02:25 PM »
Hello everyone,

Is the R09HR already available in Canada? No, I don't live in Canada, but my wife is going to a TV comercial shooting session for a week in Canada ( no, she's not the star...) in June. This way she would bring it to me back home.
Thanks in advance for any help  ;)
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #252 on: May 20, 2008, 05:30:03 PM »
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #253 on: May 20, 2008, 05:53:04 PM »
Samples:

Brief bit of the fellow supporting Bon Iver last night, recorded with the R09HRs internal mics, about 25 feet away, set to low gain, 24/96, can't remember the exact input volume because I was on the cider. Impressed with the quality though.

http://download.yousendit.com/3CB277A25711BD3E
 
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A sample of Bon Iver's set with my full rig.... CA11s > FEL BMA 1 > R09HR. mp3, but I'm not uploading anymore until I fixed a couple of coughs (my own, alas, alas) and I've got permission to distribute.

Again, the exact settings are hazy... B.I varied wildly in volume from loud to barely there to loud again. Sounds grand to me, though:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0I1RVP1H
 
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #254 on: May 20, 2008, 06:25:32 PM »
Edirol has pushed back to mid June now

 

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