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Re:compression problems
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2003, 09:02:54 PM »
really???  I still dont get how the ffps are easier than md5s... I guess after 4 years of SHN its not going to be easy to make a transition....

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2003, 12:23:43 PM »
really???  I still dont get how the ffps are easier than md5s... I guess after 4 years of SHN its not going to be easy to make a transition....

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i like flac more and more everyday, such a great lil tool..i havent been using compression for very long,maybe a year, but even everything i have in shn format, i put into flac format and eventually i'll give all the shn's away.. 8)why mess w/ md5's when the fingerprint is in each flac anyway, why do more steps than ya have to.... ;)
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2003, 09:59:41 PM »
maybe im not using flac verification to it fullest, but the way I see it is you can either create the ffps and compare them by eye to make sure they are all right.... which would involve checking about 15-20 files for each show to make sure the d/l went ok.  

Or you can have them verified when you decode to wav, which means you have to scroll back and read the decompression of each file to see it went OK.  To me, that seems like more work than setting up the md5s for the 5 or so shows i d/led and having mkwACT pop up with the exact files that did not verify.

Do I make sense, or am I a rambling fool that has it all wrong  ???

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(and if you chose to call me a fool - please state why and not make jokes at my expense  8))

EDIT:  and another thing... when you verify while decoding, who is to say those files are still accurate to the ffps in the txt file?  I can put a p+f show named as a phish show with a phish txt file and they will all verify correctly, will they not??  Then when i listen, its all wrong, and im going to have to settle for some P+F   ;)
« Last Edit: December 08, 2003, 10:02:18 PM by HanKDanK »
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2003, 10:02:58 PM »
Fucked up FLACs won't decode... so the fingerprint is unnecessary. If it decodes, then wham bam, it's all good, nothing went shcrewy.
Why tapers include FLAC fingerprints in their txt files is just one of those dumb taper quirks...
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2003, 10:06:57 PM »
Fucked up FLACs won't decode... so the fingerprint is unnecessary. If it decodes, then wham bam, it's all good, nothing went shcrewy.
Why tapers include FLAC fingerprints in their txt files is just one of those dumb taper quirks...
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Yeah, but if a complete file is missing, there will be no message to tell me I missed a track... happens sometimes on FTP trades and is easy to overlook.  with the md5s it will tell me its missing from the set, the flac verification only tells me what I have verifys..... right?

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2003, 10:08:48 PM »
the fingerprints are useful if you want to compare what you downloaded to a known source, say that is on the etree database.  if you downloaded the file correctly, it will decode correctly.  if not, you will be notified.

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2003, 10:15:05 PM »
I guess ive just been lucky enough to not run into any problems yet.... forgive my ignorance.  Im still not convinced, but I guess ill just conform with the masses and become a filthy flacer ;)
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2003, 10:20:21 PM »
you've got to look at the list of files to make sure you got them all, yes that's true.  flac does fall short in that critical area. :P

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2003, 01:15:05 AM »
philthy phlac'r :P
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2003, 07:35:44 AM »
sounds screwy, I'll stick to shn for now

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2003, 08:27:52 AM »
Yeah, but if a complete file is missing, there will be no message to tell me I missed a track...

That's why I include FLAC fingerprints with my recordings.

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Re:compression problems
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2003, 11:15:39 AM »
Yeah, but if a complete file is missing, there will be no message to tell me I missed a track...

That's why I include FLAC fingerprints with my recordings.

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brian, you never miss a beat, +T for that one.... ;)
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2003, 01:59:58 PM »
sounds screwy, I'll stick to shn for now

it's really, really simple...
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Re:compression problems
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2003, 02:45:06 PM »
sounds screwy, I'll stick to shn for now

it's really, really simple...

really, really, really simple, if i can do it, you def can.... ;)
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