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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #181 on: February 06, 2009, 10:18:21 PM »
Super Mod is for nature dudes.  Doug has a huge following in the nature field too.  Those guys are even more anal than we are. 

Concert mod is the way to go.   :coolguy:

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #182 on: February 08, 2009, 06:44:56 PM »
How's it sound?
:-*

CM or Stock?

id be interested in hearing both right now.  wonder if it will be able to stand up to a stock fr2le?
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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #183 on: February 09, 2009, 09:39:14 PM »
id be interested in hearing both right now. 

Me too.  Hoping someone will have something for us to listen to soon... Nothing on LMA yet.  :P

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #184 on: February 10, 2009, 10:42:08 AM »
I am thinking the concert mod is going to be the way to go, without even bothering with comparisons. Upgrades to better op amps and input capacitors will improve the sound the same way it did on the 671 and 660, and I have never heard anyone claim that they did not hear an improvement with that mod over the stock units.

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #185 on: February 10, 2009, 11:09:46 AM »
I am thinking the concert mod is going to be the way to go, without even bothering with comparisons. Upgrades to better op amps and input capacitors will improve the sound the same way it did on the 671 and 660, and I have never heard anyone claim that they did not hear an improvement with that mod over the stock units.



no contest!  the stock 660 is almost unusable to those of us that record anything acoustic.  After the mod it is one of the best (if not the best) 16 bit all in one ever.
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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #186 on: February 10, 2009, 12:25:29 PM »

There's no question the 660 mods from Doug solved a serious problem with the stock unit.

So far I've read lots of talk here about mods to the 661, but not a lot of talk about the problems that need solving.

I have no doubt Doug does good things.  I still want to hear a stock 661 first.

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #187 on: February 10, 2009, 04:13:40 PM »

There's no question the 660 mods from Doug solved a serious problem with the stock unit.

So far I've read lots of talk here about mods to the 661, but not a lot of talk about the problems that need solving.

I have no doubt Doug does good things.  I still want to hear a stock 661 first.



Look at the published specs for the stock 661. A 16 bit SBM-1 has better dynamic range and THD figures. These specs are based on the analog signal path, and prevent the 24 bit AD from receiving a signal that is even just a little better than 16 bit. Since manufacturers have to make a unit that is "all things to all users" essentially, they have to compromise between the needs of different users, and make something that covers as many bases as possible. This leads to a final result that is not optimal.

Doug chooses op amps and input capacitors for his concert mods that are best for high input/low gain applications, the same way as he chooses different ones for low input/high gain applications in the super mod. I am not a blind follower and have never owned a unit modded by Doug, but I have been dealing with the Oade brothers now for almost 20 years and I spent plenty of money at HiFi Sales with 100% satisfaction, and I taped with Doug at a bunch of shows in the early '90s and learned alot about gear from him.

As much as I feel the mod is the way to go, I personally would like to hear a comp of the XLR set to "line in" between the stock and modded unit, just to see what improvement level there is and if it's worth $50, but I know for sure that if I was running mics directly in, I would not even bother with a stock unit, concert mod all the way.

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #188 on: February 11, 2009, 08:41:11 PM »
I just placed my order for the Concert Mod.

Here is a quick question. Do you think I will need to run the pad as everyone does with the PMD660?
If so which one?

I am very psyched to be getting back in the game. My previous rig was into a dmic-20 > D8.
I'm looking forward to hearing how this baby sounds....





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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #189 on: February 11, 2009, 08:48:37 PM »
I just placed my order for the Concert Mod.

Here is a quick question. Do you think I will need to run the pad as everyone does with the PMD660?
If so which one?

I am very psyched to be getting back in the game. My previous rig was into a dmic-20 > D8.
I'm looking forward to hearing how this baby sounds....

Cool, please post some samples when you get a chance.  Very curious how the concert mod 661 sounds with the MK4s without a pre inbetween.

btw, what's the 'pad' all about?

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #190 on: February 11, 2009, 08:59:27 PM »
I just placed my order for the Concert Mod.

Here is a quick question. Do you think I will need to run the pad as everyone does with the PMD660?
If so which one?

I am very psyched to be getting back in the game. My previous rig was into a dmic-20 > D8.
I'm looking forward to hearing how this baby sounds....






ask Doug about running the pad. i bet he says yes for rock music.
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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #191 on: February 11, 2009, 09:00:42 PM »
MK4>661 is gonna smoke.
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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #192 on: February 11, 2009, 09:01:28 PM »
MK4>661 is gonna smoke.
mk4>acm660 sure did.
4. im so abrasive i make sandpaper nervous.

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #193 on: February 13, 2009, 01:28:52 AM »
how many folks are actually running these ?
either stock or modded?

any samples
or  dare I say  .... opinions?

looks like a damn nice 24 bit unit and small with phantom XLR's  - yesssss

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Re: new marantz PMD 661
« Reply #194 on: February 13, 2009, 01:37:49 AM »




...size comparison. Real world batt test tomorrow morning...
J.T.L.
thanx
for the size comp n pics
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