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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #210 on: April 08, 2004, 10:56:20 PM »
Here's an example of what SD is thinking when they advise owning a mixer and a 7xx series.  It's a serious example in the middle of a satiric piece:

http://www.sounddevices.com/news/kj.htm

"I use a SD442 and hardwire to two cameras. When it's available, I'll add the 744T and feed the direct outputs from the 442 to the 744T inputs. I'll send mixed program to the two cameras, plus sending the direct tracks to the "drive". In case the audio poops out on the camera(s), I've got it and I'm the hero. With the size and weight of the 744T, I'll just keep it in my kit and record to it all the time. If the production is over and the drive audio isn't needed, I'll just erase it. No loss, no cost. On the other hand if they do need it...ta da, Skittles for a whole week!"

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #211 on: April 09, 2004, 12:01:38 AM »
Here's an example of what SD is thinking when they advise owning a mixer and a 7xx series.  It's a serious example in the middle of a satiric piece:

http://www.sounddevices.com/news/kj.htm

"I use a SD442 and hardwire to two cameras. When it's available, I'll add the 744T and feed the direct outputs from the 442 to the 744T inputs. I'll send mixed program to the two cameras, plus sending the direct tracks to the "drive". In case the audio poops out on the camera(s), I've got it and I'm the hero. With the size and weight of the 744T, I'll just keep it in my kit and record to it all the time. If the production is over and the drive audio isn't needed, I'll just erase it. No loss, no cost. On the other hand if they do need it...ta da, Skittles for a whole week!"

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #212 on: April 09, 2004, 01:40:47 AM »
looks like the need for carrying the lead has just vanished with this sweet camera battery find
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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #213 on: April 09, 2004, 10:40:12 AM »
Marc,

Here's another question. Is the battery removable so that you could have a spare battery already charged up and then attach it when the first one runs down?

Or is it attached permanently?

Thanks




the sound devices spec page mentions compatibility with L- and M- Mount Sony batteries

looking around a little i found these bad boys..can you say 5000-6000mah?

HELL YEAH!..if these fit the slot, there are no power concerns ;)

http://www.batterybank.com/master/npf960.html

http://www.batterybank.com/master/npfm91.html



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sweet find boogie.  if only there was a picture of the battery attachment area from SD.  then we'd know for sure.  three or four of the 6000mah batts and you'd be good to go all day.  for those of us who already own the 'festival battery',  we just need to get the hirose plug.

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #214 on: April 09, 2004, 10:40:59 AM »
the plug clicks into place and the outer barrel must be pulled back to remove it.

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #215 on: April 09, 2004, 04:01:24 PM »
right there in the broadcast wave specification:

4 gig limit, though in practice 2gb, perhaps due to signed vs unsigned ints?

You're right about signed numbers being the culprit here - by using that bit for sign, you lose a power of 2.

So it would split at 4 GB - great. What the hell do people do when they discover they can't open these files in any editor? I get an error message in anything I have if I try to open up a WAV that is greater than 2 GB. Since BWF is a subset of WAV, it's a safe bet that it'd have this issue too. The only thing I can open > 2 GB are SDII ex and W64.
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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #216 on: April 09, 2004, 06:21:07 PM »
i plan on having it split at 1GB every time

how about this though:

24/192 is 4 gigs an hour.  so any half hour jam will be longer than 2 gigs...we'll have to split files up into 2 just to save them :)

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #217 on: April 09, 2004, 07:19:52 PM »
24/192 is 4 gigs an hour.  so any half hour jam will be longer than 2 gigs...we'll have to split files up into 2 just to save them :)

How is that going to work with something like discwelder Bronze?  When you you drop in wave files, I assume that is where it puts the track marks.  If you have to break long jams into chunks, it seems like that results in trackmarks at undesirable places.  Anyone using Steel know if track marks can be placed independently of file boundaries?
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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #218 on: April 09, 2004, 08:23:46 PM »
Hey Marc,  another set of questions for the FAQ:

- What is the HD installation procedure?  
- Is there a format procedure that must be applied when a drive is installed?  
- How long does that take?
- Can I preformat drives and then swap them in as they become full?
- Does the unit offer a "remaining" counter display to indicate the unused capacity at the currently selected recording rate?
- What is required to swap drives in the field?  Is there a drive bay and a ribbon cable or is there a proper drive enclosure?  
- If the latter is the enclosure available as an optional part?  
- Is the drive removable with finger screws or are tools required?
- What are the specific harddrives that have been qualified by SD for use in the 722?
- How are track marks handled during recording?  Does that cause a new file to be started?


BTW, on your page there are several customized packages.  Is that your doing or is that standard offering from SD?


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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #219 on: April 09, 2004, 08:43:00 PM »
Michael, good questons, i'm sure sd will be able to provide the answers, and we'll have hands on with these things during training in may.  hopefully, a lot of this stuff will be solidified by then.  the customized packages are Sonicsense exclusives.

you really planning on filling up the drives that fast?

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #220 on: April 09, 2004, 11:37:32 PM »
archiving on IDE drives is becoming more and more cost-effective
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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #221 on: April 10, 2004, 12:51:36 PM »
I'll probably start archiving on IDE soon.  But my initial interest is because we plan to take this thing to Bonnaroo and tape everything, including the time I spend snoring.  We hope to have a laptop and get the shows onto DVD while we are not taping, but realisticly I think that we'll be more likely to just take a second drive and use that after the first one is full.

If 192/24 fills 4GB/hr and I assume that we're talking about 12-14 hours of music/day, I'm going to need at least two 80G drives.  I have a feeling that we'll have to swap the drive halfway though the second day.  Does that seem about right?  Between Joe and I we have enough gear to cover all the stages, but I think the 722 is going to get run back and forth between which ever stage is active.  First run out of the gate and we're gonna beat the thing into submission.

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #222 on: April 10, 2004, 02:39:51 PM »
i'll be doing the same thing at telluride 10am-1am, don't know if i'll run it that high, but it won't be 44/16.  

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #223 on: April 10, 2004, 07:07:43 PM »
What microphones are you using to capture sound above 45kHz? Is it the new Sanken omni?

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Re:SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE
« Reply #224 on: April 11, 2004, 05:56:10 AM »
oh shit, here it comes

 

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