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iRiver Transfer Stopping
« on: March 27, 2010, 10:07:39 AM »
Hi,

I am trying to pull a file off of my iRiver, but it will get to a certain point every time, stop, and freeze my computer up.

Any ideas? :(

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2010, 10:40:35 AM »
When this happened to me a few times it was  a sign of a bad sector on the iRiver disc (although I normally got it reported as a cyclic redundancy error eventually).  Run Chkdsk and if it shows up any bad sectors that's could be what's causing the freezing.  All is not lost if that is the case, as you can run Chkdsk to repair the bad sector (can remember the exact command /R or /F?).  You may find it results in you losing a small fraction of the file if this is the cause.

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2010, 11:00:05 AM »
You do need to do chkdsk like he said, but I would hold off for a moment.  chkdsk will attempt to repair the file system, even if it has to destroy your file to do it, so I might try a couple of gentler options first.

Mount it up on a Linux computer if you (or a buddy) have one, and try to copy it off onto the linux computer.  I have saved a lot of data from funky drives using Linux.  It won't recover a bad sector automatically, but it might just read the whole file, including the bad spot, without freaking out like Windows tends to.

If the recording is an important one, I would try to do a transfer by patching the output of the iRiver into something else and playing it back (digi to another iRiver is ideal, but even analog into your computer's sound card line it is better than nothing).

Then run chkdsk like he said.  I generally run "chkdsk /f x:" for "fix" first, try to recover the file, and then run "chkdsk /r x:" for "recover" second.

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2010, 11:05:12 AM »
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Good suggestions - thanks.  I hadn't thought of trying another operating system or the digi out to digi in on another iRiver (I've got 2 H120s so this would be an option for me).  If it happens again to me I'll try these first rather than diving in with repairing the sector, which has lost me a small bit of my recording each time its happened to me!

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2010, 03:42:52 PM »
Try this too http://www.jfilerecovery.com/

It will copy the file for you, and when it comes across the bad part of the file, it will skip it, but will continue copying the file. At most, you would hear a small skip during the damaged part.

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2010, 05:50:24 PM »
This was the error I got at first:


can't read from the source file or disk.

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2010, 08:26:36 PM »
You do need to do chkdsk like he said, but I would hold off for a moment.  chkdsk will attempt to repair the file system, even if it has to destroy your file to do it, so I might try a couple of gentler options first.

Mount it up on a Linux computer if you (or a buddy) have one, and try to copy it off onto the linux computer.  I have saved a lot of data from funky drives using Linux.  It won't recover a bad sector automatically, but it might just read the whole file, including the bad spot, without freaking out like Windows tends to.

If the recording is an important one, I would try to do a transfer by patching the output of the iRiver into something else and playing it back (digi to another iRiver is ideal, but even analog into your computer's sound card line it is better than nothing).

Then run chkdsk like he said.  I generally run "chkdsk /f x:" for "fix" first, try to recover the file, and then run "chkdsk /r x:" for "recover" second.

Good luck.


How would i go about doing this?  What would I need?

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2010, 08:34:25 PM »
Just thought of something, should I be doing this differently other than going into my computer and clicking and dragging the recording to my desktop?

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2010, 10:02:33 PM »
Just thought of something, should I be doing this differently other than going into my computer and clicking and dragging the recording to my desktop?

I don't think it matters how you do it, if it can't read the drive, it can't.

You also asked...

How would i go about doing this?  What would I need?


Basically you just patch it like you were dubbing from one deck to another.  It's real time... if it's a 2 hour wave file, it will take 2 hours.  Run a 1/8" to 1/8" stereo cable from the iRiver output to the input jack on the sound card (most sound cards have one anyway), and then pull up audacity or whatever and have it record while you play the iRiver.   The idea is maybe the iRiver will still play the file (perhaps with a little skip) so that you can get a copy of the tape.   Then you run chkdsk.
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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2010, 12:20:58 AM »
Just thought of something, should I be doing this differently other than going into my computer and clicking and dragging the recording to my desktop?

I don't think it matters how you do it, if it can't read the drive, it can't.

You also asked...

How would i go about doing this?  What would I need?




Basically you just patch it like you were dubbing from one deck to another.  It's real time... if it's a 2 hour wave file, it will take 2 hours.  Run a 1/8" to 1/8" stereo cable from the iRiver output to the input jack on the sound card (most sound cards have one anyway), and then pull up audacity or whatever and have it record while you play the iRiver.   The idea is maybe the iRiver will still play the file (perhaps with a little skip) so that you can get a copy of the tape.   Then you run chkdsk.


Can I use the microphone jack in my computer? Do you know?

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2010, 12:58:40 AM »
Just thought of something, should I be doing this differently other than going into my computer and clicking and dragging the recording to my desktop?

I don't think it matters how you do it, if it can't read the drive, it can't.

You also asked...

How would i go about doing this?  What would I need?




Basically you just patch it like you were dubbing from one deck to another.  It's real time... if it's a 2 hour wave file, it will take 2 hours.  Run a 1/8" to 1/8" stereo cable from the iRiver output to the input jack on the sound card (most sound cards have one anyway), and then pull up audacity or whatever and have it record while you play the iRiver.   The idea is maybe the iRiver will still play the file (perhaps with a little skip) so that you can get a copy of the tape.   Then you run chkdsk.


Can I use the microphone jack in my computer? Do you know?

no.  microphone level <> line level

I would try all of the other options mentioned multiple times before I resorted to this anyway though.
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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2010, 03:19:08 AM »
I tried the analog to analog thing cause nothing else worked.  It recorded all the way up to a point and the tape cuts off.

Except when I open the tape in Foobar (from the player), it has the full tape there.

Any other ideas?

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2010, 01:07:38 PM »
If you can do a "save as" in Foobar save it to your hard drive (I don't know anything about foobar), otherwise I think it's time to run chkdsk.
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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2010, 01:19:21 PM »
Try this too http://www.jfilerecovery.com/

It will copy the file for you, and when it comes across the bad part of the file, it will skip it, but will continue copying the file. At most, you would hear a small skip during the damaged part.

Did you try this? It worked for me with a similar iriver problem.

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Re: iRiver Transfer Stopping
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2010, 01:25:06 PM »
Try this too http://www.jfilerecovery.com/

It will copy the file for you, and when it comes across the bad part of the file, it will skip it, but will continue copying the file. At most, you would hear a small skip during the damaged part.

Did you try this? It worked for me with a similar iriver problem.


All I can get this program to do is run a scan on my system.  It doesn't give me an option to open an individual file. Any incite?

 

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