Topic: AKG Active Project part 4

[F.O.Bean]

I NEED those mic clips ero

[it-goes-to-eleven]

None of those mic clips will fit with windsreens like the big shures.  Or, allow use of legacy schoeps bars.

[ts]

For windscreens my solution here has always been stock foams with small dead rats. Use the stock foams indoors and both outdoors. I really like Chucks mounting solution. Much cheaper than my Vark bar, A20S and Audix D clips. The D clips are perfect for the size of the colette being made.

[hi and lo]

Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

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Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

hmm, I think it would mean a sturdy connector, not a hardwired one. Take a look at the mbho design, it affixes the capsule element to a minixlr which is what the clip holds onto. Beyer uses the same setup and one other maker does as well, can't remember who at the moment though.

PS: I don't have any stake in this either.

[willndmb]

None of those mic clips will fit with windsreens like the big shures.  Or, allow use of legacy schoeps bars.

good point, i use the "big" dpa screens
i think they would work but you wouldn't be able to slide it on all the way, but enough to cover the cap

[hi and lo]

Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

hmm, I think it would mean a sturdy connector, not a hardwired one. Take a look at the mbho design, it affixes the capsule element to a minixlr which is what the clip holds onto. Beyer uses the same setup and one other maker does as well, can't remember who at the moment though.

PS: I don't have any stake in this either.

Not speaking from personal experience, but I would imagine those delrin bars are somewhat inferior to the Schoeps one. The Schoeps Kwon/Nola bars are far more common the the Neumann/MBHO variants and are the most streamlined. Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (which is a good bet).

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

I have a clip that I believe solves all of these issues fairly elegantly, and allows the use of schoeps bars.  I will probably productize it once the active setup is actually available.

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Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

hmm, I think it would mean a sturdy connector, not a hardwired one. Take a look at the mbho design, it affixes the capsule element to a minixlr which is what the clip holds onto. Beyer uses the same setup and one other maker does as well, can't remember who at the moment though.

PS: I don't have any stake in this either.

Not speaking from personal experience, but I would imagine those delrin bars are somewhat inferior to the Schoeps one. The Schoeps Kwon/Nola bars are far more common the the Neumann/MBHO variants and are the most streamlined. Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (which is a good bet).

yes, the schoeps bars are far more common, I suspect because there are more schoeps users who choose to use them is part of it. As far as inferiority, I guess I'm missing in what aspect.

[ero3030]

here r my options for out doors with my active set up.  the clips r strong enough to hold the KC housing all the way to the end with no probs.  your stock wind screens fit nice as do the dpa's, and i LOVE the Rode Dead Kitten by itself or over the stock screens.  i also us it on my schoeps cmxy4v's with great results.  it has a silky inside so u dont mind it right on your mic's.  it just the right size.  your could probably just use a Rycote wind jammer that covers the baby ball gag and cover the whole thing.  would never use the shure big ass screens, but dont see y they wouldnt fit.  hopefuly the project gets to the point where u'all have to find a mounting solution, that would be a good thing!!??  right?    ed

[ts]

Thanks ed! I was going to post something similar. Many options for screens, just no big ass Shures. Like I said I use a Vark bar, an A20S and Audix D clips with stock foamies and small dead rats for my Franken Naks, Akg CKx caps, DPA 4023's and I will now use the same mounting solution for the new AKG CK6x actives! With such a nice small rig who wants to lug around those big ass shures. I have the big ass shures and I only use them when I have my big ass bag with my big ass rig.

[F.O.Bean]

Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

hmm, I think it would mean a sturdy connector, not a hardwired one. Take a look at the mbho design, it affixes the capsule element to a minixlr which is what the clip holds onto. Beyer uses the same setup and one other maker does as well, can't remember who at the moment though.

PS: I don't have any stake in this either.

Not speaking from personal experience, but I would imagine those delrin bars are somewhat inferior to the Schoeps one. The Schoeps Kwon/Nola bars are far more common the the Neumann/MBHO variants and are the most streamlined. Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (which is a good bet).

Not that I have a say or that there is time to change the design, but I agree that this current solution will not allow the use of larger windscreens and I think it would be hugely beneficial to design a collette that will fit the Schoeps delrin mounting bars. This would mean a hardwired cable, but that's never been a problem on most of the active setups already available.

hmm, I think it would mean a sturdy connector, not a hardwired one. Take a look at the mbho design, it affixes the capsule element to a minixlr which is what the clip holds onto. Beyer uses the same setup and one other maker does as well, can't remember who at the moment though.

PS: I don't have any stake in this either.

Not speaking from personal experience, but I would imagine those delrin bars are somewhat inferior to the Schoeps one. The Schoeps Kwon/Nola bars are far more common the the Neumann/MBHO variants and are the most streamlined. Someone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong (which is a good bet).

yes, the schoeps bars are far more common, I suspect because there are more schoeps users who choose to use them is part of it. As far as inferiority, I guess I'm missing in what aspect.

Having owned both the Kwon style MBHO Bars, and the NOLA Bars that I now own, I can say the quality is just the same. Theyre well worth the price tag IMO, because of btheir simplicity

In what ways do you think theyre inferior

[newplanet7]

i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good

Can you point me to a picture of those rubberband shock mounts? I can't find them on the WindTech site.

this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/298919-REG/WindTech_SP_20_SP_20_Microhone_Shockmount.html

Yep, they would be a ton bigger which is why I suggested Ed's way.
Here's a pic of the windtechs on a akg bar with cmc64's. They were super snug when I ran the scheps. When I ran 460's they were super snug. They seem to fit 39x series the best.



Eds way looks bomb to me. YMMV.

[willndmb]

i use windtech rubberband shocks and they are small/cheap and in my mind would work good

Can you point me to a picture of those rubberband shock mounts? I can't find them on the WindTech site.

this http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/298919-REG/WindTech_SP_20_SP_20_Microhone_Shockmount.html

Yep, they would be a ton bigger which is why I suggested Ed's way.
Here's a pic of the windtechs on a akg bar with cmc64's. They were super snug when I ran the scheps. When I ran 460's they were super snug. They seem to fit 39x series the best.



Eds way looks bomb to me. YMMV.

yeah eds is def much smaller

[newplanet7]

Yeah will.
I think me and you have chatted about this before??? They seemed tailor made for the se300 series.
Def workable but super snug with the 460/480. Hell, I just ended u using the sa40 akg clips after a while.
Smokinjoe and I feel the same way about those. Low pro and love 'em.
-todd