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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #210 on: January 27, 2017, 05:12:38 PM »
Concerning the question why Sony discontinued the m10 despite its stellar reputation here, I happened to notice a press conference photo today.  The reporters were using their phones to record the conference.  So that could be why Sony discontinued   what we regard as a terrific recorder.

And it doesn't give me hope that we will see a replacement.

Again the Iphone is taking over everything.I'm glad that I still use my simple Tracfone.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #211 on: January 31, 2017, 10:07:31 PM »
Was just able to buy a new one for $249 online @ Professional Sound Services. Hope they still have them in stock and it is able to ship.

White & Red are still available.  Thanks perks.  :)


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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #212 on: January 31, 2017, 10:10:51 PM »
They don't actually have any in stock.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #213 on: February 01, 2017, 09:12:09 AM »
Just checking in on this thread after a long time.  Glad I got my fourth unit last year while they were still easily found. 
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #214 on: February 01, 2017, 12:32:54 PM »
They don't actually have any in stock.

I ordered one yesterday and got a confirmation that my order was processed. My card was charged so I hope they have some.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #215 on: February 01, 2017, 12:33:43 PM »
Was just able to buy a new one for $249 online @ Professional Sound Services. Hope they still have them in stock and it is able to ship.

White & Red are still available.  Thanks perks.  :)
yes, thank you for the info! I ordered a white yesterday.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #216 on: February 01, 2017, 01:39:28 PM »
Pro Sound's site now states that the item is no longer available.

Conflicting responses from the site don't clarify whether the M10 was ever recently available there.  We will have to see whether anyone who received a confirmation actually gets a unit.  B&H confirmed my order,  charged my card and then sent a "sorry, item not available" message later.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #217 on: February 01, 2017, 02:16:05 PM »
I just got a refund toady and I was the 1st person to post that they were listed as available on the website I was h0lding out hope that they had at least 1 since I got charged but its clear now it was an error on their website.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #218 on: February 11, 2017, 05:27:37 PM »
I'm not sure how scientific it is or if it makes a difference when I get to a show. But I tried to tune my m10 to be in unity with my V3 analog out. I ran a YouTube video of a few different frequencies giving a continuous tone. Then I manipulated the gain in the V3 and m10 until I could dial them in together. I've read that "4" is unity gain for most people's m10 but what I came up with is a shade under "3". That seems to be dead on with my V3. I guess running other gear in front of the m10 could have something to do with other people's experience but at least I'm fairly confident this pairing is nails on.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #219 on: February 11, 2017, 09:12:39 PM »
Pro Sound's site now states that the item is no longer available.

Conflicting responses from the site don't clarify whether the M10 was ever recently available there.  We will have to see whether anyone who received a confirmation actually gets a unit.  B&H confirmed my order,  charged my card and then sent a "sorry, item not available" message later.

Still trying to get my refund from these assholes, I've called four times.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #220 on: February 11, 2017, 11:00:44 PM »
I'm not sure how scientific it is or if it makes a difference when I get to a show. But I tried to tune my m10 to be in unity with my V3 analog out. I ran a YouTube video of a few different frequencies giving a continuous tone. Then I manipulated the gain in the V3 and m10 until I could dial them in together. I've read that "4" is unity gain for most people's m10 but what I came up with is a shade under "3". That seems to be dead on with my V3. I guess running other gear in front of the m10 could have something to do with other people's experience but at least I'm fairly confident this pairing is nails on.

I'm not familiar with the V3; does it have variable output gain?  That would make the level matching you're trying to do a bit tricky, unless you know exactly what the output level of the V3 is.  Maybe that's why your level is a bit lower, if your V3 is putting out a slightly hotter signal.  Here's some good info: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=165688.msg2069471#msg2069471

Apologies if you know this already, but there's really no such thing as "unity gain" between these two pieces of equipment.  I just think of it as good gain staging. 
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #221 on: February 12, 2017, 02:18:40 PM »
Pro Sound's site now states that the item is no longer available.

Conflicting responses from the site don't clarify whether the M10 was ever recently available there.  We will have to see whether anyone who received a confirmation actually gets a unit.  B&H confirmed my order,  charged my card and then sent a "sorry, item not available" message later.

Still trying to get my refund from these assholes, I've called four times.

My last experience with them was bad.  Never again.

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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #222 on: February 12, 2017, 08:21:02 PM »
Really unfortunate to hear about the situation with Pro Sound and the not-really-there M10.  I've experienced this with other, smaller vendors before who have an item for sale on their website and the order goes through, only to be contacted later to say that the item never was in stock.  That was with small accessories though; not something like this.

So at this point, I think it's safe to say that any vendor claiming to have M10s for sale should be met with extreme skepticism.  We don't know when Sony actually stopped manufacturing them and how many unsold units (if any) are sitting in warehouses.  You'd think that electronic stocking systems would take care of alerting potential buyers of an item being out of stock though.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #223 on: February 12, 2017, 09:15:26 PM »
I'm not sure how scientific it is or if it makes a difference when I get to a show. But I tried to tune my m10 to be in unity with my V3 analog out. I ran a YouTube video of a few different frequencies giving a continuous tone. Then I manipulated the gain in the V3 and m10 until I could dial them in together. I've read that "4" is unity gain for most people's m10 but what I came up with is a shade under "3". That seems to be dead on with my V3. I guess running other gear in front of the m10 could have something to do with other people's experience but at least I'm fairly confident this pairing is nails on.
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Re: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 8)
« Reply #224 on: February 12, 2017, 11:17:03 PM »
Pro Sound's site now states that the item is no longer available.

Conflicting responses from the site don't clarify whether the M10 was ever recently available there.  We will have to see whether anyone who received a confirmation actually gets a unit.  B&H confirmed my order,  charged my card and then sent a "sorry, item not available" message later.

Still trying to get my refund from these assholes, I've called four times.

My last experience with them was bad.  Never again.

If this is true, I will have to dispute the charge with my CC company
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