Topic: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 4

[rigpimp]

I wish some clever coding geek would figure out a way to FLAC polywav's.  Foobar gets close but fails MD5's.

[spyder9]

My 'System' setup for using my Shure FP24 out in front of the MixPre-3 for two channel recording:

System:  Mode Basic

Line IN XLR

CH1 knob: Pan L, Input Line, Gain 10 (turn knob to the right)
CH2 knob: Pan R, Input Line, Gain 10 (turn knob to the right)
CH3 knob: Gain 0 (turn knob all the way to the left, for Off)

This will leave you with one 2 channel file, 24-48

Major EDIT:  Previous setup, whether in Advanced or Custom mode, leaves you with multi channels in a single Poly file.  This new setup avoids that.

[voltronic]

My 'System' setup for using my Shure FP24 out in front of the MixPre-3 for two channel recording:

Channel: Basic (CH1 - L pan, CH2 - R pan), Line IN
Gain:   Advanced (knobs are faders)
Record:   Advanced (I unarmed the 3rd channel)

Why would you be using the FP24 in front of your MixPre?  As good as the FP24 is, the preamps in the MixPre are going to be better.

[ts]

Besides being Spider-Man he’s also transformer man. 

[noahbickart]

Besides being Spider-Man he’s also transformer man. 

why not save your back and introduce some transformer style saturation in post with something like this in "desk" mode:

https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR/SDRR.php

[spyder9]

My 'System' setup for using my Shure FP24 out in front of the MixPre-3 for two channel recording:

Channel: Basic (CH1 - L pan, CH2 - R pan), Line IN
Gain:   Advanced (knobs are faders)
Record:   Advanced (I unarmed the 3rd channel)

Why would you be using the FP24 in front of your MixPre?  As good as the FP24 is, the preamps in the MixPre are going to be better.

That's not a true statement.   

[spyder9]

Besides being Spider-Man he’s also transformer man. 

Ding, ding, ding!   We got a winner!   

[spyder9]

Besides being Spider-Man he’s also transformer man. 

why not save your back and introduce some transformer style saturation in post with something like this in "desk" mode:

https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR/SDRR.php

The Buck was actually earned a 100 shows ago, but thanks for the tip.   

[yug du nord]

Besides being Spider-Man he’s also transformer man. 

why not save your back and introduce some transformer style saturation in post with something like this in "desk" mode:

https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/SDRR/SDRR.php

I know that in post processing you can manipulate things to fit what you are wanting to hear............

..............but....  if you know what you like your recordings to sound like, and can achieve that with certain gear...  then why not go for it with the hardware that's in your gear bag??

I understand that you can make your recording sound like it might have transformers in the chain with some post processing...  but if you actually have transformers that you can use, why not??

There is nothing wrong with EQ...  but if you know what you want, and can do it live....  do it!  If you can't do it live, then go for it with software.
Just my 2cents..  to each their own!   
.............and by the way Noah...  your PH pulls have been fantastic!!  Thank you!!!   

Signed,
<Strong Believer in Heavy Gear Bags>

[voltronic]

My 'System' setup for using my Shure FP24 out in front of the MixPre-3 for two channel recording:

Channel: Basic (CH1 - L pan, CH2 - R pan), Line IN
Gain:   Advanced (knobs are faders)
Record:   Advanced (I unarmed the 3rd channel)

Why would you be using the FP24 in front of your MixPre?  As good as the FP24 is, the preamps in the MixPre are going to be better.

That's not a true statement.

So you would rather have transformer coloration than higher absolute quality?

Not only that, the FP24 has to have the least transformer coloration of any preamp with transformers I've ever used.  I have cranked the hell out of it, and cannot get saturation (not like I'd want any).  So I don't even think it's a good preamp to use if that's the sound you're going for.

I know, to each his own.  But I have never and will never understand the idea of purposely baking in distortion or coloration into a recording of live music.

[spyder9]

My 'System' setup for using my Shure FP24 out in front of the MixPre-3 for two channel recording:

Channel: Basic (CH1 - L pan, CH2 - R pan), Line IN
Gain:   Advanced (knobs are faders)
Record:   Advanced (I unarmed the 3rd channel)

Why would you be using the FP24 in front of your MixPre?  As good as the FP24 is, the preamps in the MixPre are going to be better.

That's not a true statement.

So you would rather have transformer coloration than higher absolute quality?

Not only that, the FP24 has to have the least transformer coloration of any preamp with transformers I've ever used.  I have cranked the hell out of it, and cannot get saturation (not like I'd want any).  So I don't even think it's a good preamp to use if that's the sound you're going for.

I know, to each his own.  But I have never and will never understand the idea of purposely baking in distortion or coloration into a recording of live music.

Yes.

[fanofjam]

But I have never and will never understand the idea of purposely baking in distortion or coloration into a recording of live music.

Sonosax SX-M2
EAA PSP2
Neve 'silk' mode
Various versions of Oade 'warm' and 'concert' mods
Any number of high end studio rack mount transformer based preamps...

[voltronic]

But I have never and will never understand the idea of purposely baking in distortion or coloration into a recording of live music.

Sonosax SX-M2
EAA PSP2
Neve 'silk' mode
Various versions of Oade 'warm' and 'concert' mods
Any number of high end studio rack mount transformer based preamps...

I know about all of those.  I still don't get why anyone would want to do that for a concert recording (as opposed to manipulating the tone color of a solo instrument / voice in a studio), but obviously many people like it.  It seems to me that if your recording sounds thin or lifeless without the transformer saturation, then your first thing to look at correcting would be your technique / placement or your mics themselves.

This should really be its own thread; sorry for cluttering this one.

[fanofjam]

But I have never and will never understand the idea of purposely baking in distortion or coloration into a recording of live music.

Sonosax SX-M2
EAA PSP2
Neve 'silk' mode
Various versions of Oade 'warm' and 'concert' mods
Any number of high end studio rack mount transformer based preamps...

I know about all of those.  I still don't get why anyone would want to do that for a concert recording (as opposed to manipulating the tone color of a solo instrument / voice in a studio), but obviously many people like it.  It seems to me that if your recording sounds thin or lifeless without the transformer saturation, then your first thing to look at correcting would be your technique / placement or your mics themselves.

This should really be its own thread; sorry for cluttering this one.

Is obviously all personal preference.  You can buy a half gallon of hot fudge ice cream or you can buy vanilla and add hot fudge later.

[Duncan]

Hi All,
Just joined the MixPre team and was wondering about the line option as I've not seen any mention of it in the thread
I've got a 722 and use the line input almost all the time as I record mainly heavy rock show.

Is the line in on the MP the same as the 722?
I'm pretty sure the limiters in the 722 (I don't use them) only work on the mic in. Is that the same with the MP

I still haven't managed to understand what the Faders on the MP do. Do they control the LR mix levels?
If yes would I be able to run the separate channels low and the mix high (controlled by the fader)? or the other way round so I've got a kind of safety track going on
hope that makes sense



Duncan