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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #180 on: May 24, 2018, 06:50:45 PM »
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It's not looking like we can run a line in at a loud show.
When you plug in any type of source into the unit's stereo
mini the gain now starts at 42. OK so with internal mics the range is
0-100, the range with anything plugged in is only 42-100.

not with my unit, i was running around 10 input level with mic in. i dont see where to check firmware version in the menu
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #181 on: May 25, 2018, 12:28:50 AM »
I just did a factory reset on my unit and now it's working like it should be after re-setting it.

Gain goes from 0-100 now and it seems to now be able to take a hot signal. Sorry folks,
trying to be helpful i posted bad information and i apologize. I need some more testing (line in)

I ran mic in with my babynbox tonight at a very loud show, and it seemed to work fine.
Gain at 58. The wav looks good.
Carry on :-)
« Last Edit: May 25, 2018, 12:54:46 AM by edtyre »
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #182 on: May 25, 2018, 04:37:30 AM »
Sounds good... do you have any impression of the quality of the input? compared to the M-10, for example...

I just did a factory reset on my unit and now it's working like it should be after re-setting it.

Gain goes from 0-100 now and it seems to now be able to take a hot signal. Sorry folks,
trying to be helpful i posted bad information and i apologize. I need some more testing (line in)

I ran mic in with my babynbox tonight at a very loud show, and it seemed to work fine.
Gain at 58. The wav looks good.
Carry on :-)
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #183 on: May 25, 2018, 10:50:49 AM »
Sounds good... do you have any impression of the quality of the input? compared to the M-10, for example...

sample (part of the wav i did a screen cap above)
https://soundcloud.com/edtyre/dana-fuchs-band-2018-05-24-sellersville-theater

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #184 on: May 25, 2018, 12:52:57 PM »
I just did a factory reset on my unit and now it's working like it should be after re-setting it.

Gain goes from 0-100 now and it seems to now be able to take a hot signal. Sorry folks,
trying to be helpful i posted bad information and i apologize. I need some more testing (line in)

I ran mic in with my babynbox tonight at a very loud show, and it seemed to work fine.
Gain at 58. The wav looks good.
Carry on :-)
I've read this in the reference guide (p.16):
"If the recording mode is set to 2xWAV- (dual-level recording), the input level cannot be set to a value of 1–41."
Could be this setting the cause of the problem that you have in the first record?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #185 on: May 25, 2018, 02:28:00 PM »
I just did a factory reset on my unit and now it's working like it should be after re-setting it.

Gain goes from 0-100 now and it seems to now be able to take a hot signal. Sorry folks,
trying to be helpful i posted bad information and i apologize. I need some more testing (line in)

I ran mic in with my babynbox tonight at a very loud show, and it seemed to work fine.
Gain at 58. The wav looks good.
Carry on :-)
I've read this in the reference guide (p.16):
"If the recording mode is set to 2xWAV- (dual-level recording), the input level cannot be set to a value of 1–41."
Could be this setting the cause of the problem that you have in the first record?

I'm sure that's all it is. I ran the safety track at all 3 outings to date, as I was using the deck to record sbd in at all of them. On a whim, I tried a factory reset too, but that doesn't change the selectable ranges, as noted. If you want the whole 0-100 range, don't select the dual safety recording mode. The fact that it handled a hot sbd signal at 42, though (with an 18db attenuator), is more than promising. Will disengage the dual choice, and will run the single 24/48 for tonight's show...
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #186 on: May 25, 2018, 02:28:34 PM »
I just did a factory reset on my unit and now it's working like it should be after re-setting it.

Gain goes from 0-100 now and it seems to now be able to take a hot signal. Sorry folks,
trying to be helpful i posted bad information and i apologize. I need some more testing (line in)

I ran mic in with my babynbox tonight at a very loud show, and it seemed to work fine.
Gain at 58. The wav looks good.
Carry on :-)
I've read this in the reference guide (p.16):
"If the recording mode is set to 2xWAV- (dual-level recording), the input level cannot be set to a value of 1–41."
Could be this setting the cause of the problem that you have in the first record?

YES!!! RTFM....no i didn't. I was just about to post it! Default is 1xwav and recording level range is 0-100. But when set to 2x wav, not only is the gain range
different, but the file is processed or limited in some way. I'm so glad the safety track was usable or my first time out with the R-07 would have been
a total loss. But these learning experiences are what will make perfection in the future. In my second recording with the mic-in signal, everything was
working perfect including the phone app total control, my R-07 never came out of my pocket the whole night.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #187 on: May 25, 2018, 03:14:32 PM »
So if we want to run dual recordings with the safety track the choice is:

1. Two WAV files, with an 18db attenuator?
2. One WAV file and something else?
3. Two something elses?

What's the something else?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #188 on: May 25, 2018, 03:57:36 PM »
So if we want to run dual recordings with the safety track the choice is:

1. Two WAV files, with an 18db attenuator?
2. One WAV file and something else?
3. Two something elses?

What's the something else?

For mic-in type devices like baby nbox it will be fine, but for line in like nbox or sbd, you will need an attenuator
for loud shows and dual recording. For loud shows only single wav recording. <<<<<< I think this is all you really need?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #189 on: May 25, 2018, 04:10:48 PM »
For mic-in type devices like baby nbox it will be fine, but for line in like nbox or sbd, you will need an attenuator
for loud shows and dual recording. For loud shows only single wav recording. <<<<<< I think this is all you really need?

Thanks

I ordered mine definitely with the dual recording in mind, so it looks like using my CA mics with just a battery box or getting an 18db attenuator?

It'll be interesting to test the two when mine arrives, but just been told it won't be until July here in the UK.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #190 on: May 25, 2018, 04:16:03 PM »
It's a shame Roland didn't model it closer to the R-09HR, as the plug-in locations were perfect on that unit. 
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #191 on: May 25, 2018, 04:42:36 PM »
Keep in mind if you select wav + mp3, it won't be 24 bit and it won't be a safety track

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #192 on: May 25, 2018, 04:53:14 PM »

I would think using a Nbox would also be alright, as it's consumer line level. Soundboards are usually pro line level which would be a problem without an attenuator...


So if we want to run dual recordings with the safety track the choice is:

1. Two WAV files, with an 18db attenuator?
2. One WAV file and something else?
3. Two something elses?

What's the something else?

 
For mic-in type devices like baby nbox it will be fine, but for line in like nbox or sbd, you will need an attenuator
for loud shows and dual recording. For loud shows only single wav recording. <<<<<< I think this is all you really need?
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #193 on: May 25, 2018, 05:24:24 PM »

I would think using a Nbox would also be alright, as it's consumer line level. Soundboards are usually pro line level which would be a problem without an attenuator...


So if we want to run dual recordings with the safety track the choice is:

1. Two WAV files, with an 18db attenuator?
2. One WAV file and something else?
3. Two something elses?

What's the something else?

 
For mic-in type devices like baby nbox it will be fine, but for line in like nbox or sbd, you will need an attenuator
for loud shows and dual recording. For loud shows only single wav recording. <<<<<< I think this is all you really need?


It would, but not for Dual WAV recording or safety track. For a single wav it's fine.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #194 on: May 25, 2018, 05:48:54 PM »

I would think using a Nbox would also be alright, as it's consumer line level. Soundboards are usually pro line level which would be a problem without an attenuator...


So if we want to run dual recordings with the safety track the choice is:

1. Two WAV files, with an 18db attenuator?
2. One WAV file and something else?
3. Two something elses?

What's the something else?

 
For mic-in type devices like baby nbox it will be fine, but for line in like nbox or sbd, you will need an attenuator
for loud shows and dual recording. For loud shows only single wav recording. <<<<<< I think this is all you really need?


It would, but not for Dual WAV recording or safety track. For a single wav it's fine.

Now I understand, thank you
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