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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #300 on: July 18, 2018, 01:13:52 PM »
I share with you impressions of my first night with R-07:
- bluetooth connection lost everytime I lock/put to sleep/put off the screen of my Samsung Galaxy S7 (Android). Workaround (it worked 100% of times): close app, off smartphone bluetooth, on smartphone bluetooth, reopen app, search and connect R-07
- very very very low usb transfer speed (1,5 MB/s - it's the USB 1.1 max speed. R-07 supports USB 2.0. Used in a USB 3.0 port with Win10)

Both appear to be sw problems that could be fixed in future fw releases.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #301 on: July 19, 2018, 02:02:05 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY9_zrRa5wY&index=2&list=PLm9VWtRHsBE5NdJh7ESnEP3M27Vkf6sr1&t=0s

more r-07 goodness.
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Apparently the video is no longer on youtube because of a copyright claim by Malina.

I bet your audio sounded better than the audio she uses in her showreel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1B7gtzqDD0



Oh well. Maybe she doesn't want free publicity. Too bad for her.


Here's one they did't take down . https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=1h6DgN-BY-Q
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #302 on: July 19, 2018, 05:44:09 AM »
Nice one!

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #304 on: July 19, 2018, 11:32:02 AM »
amazon prime day cheap 64 and 128gb cards

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1132692-REG/sandisk_sdsdquan_200g_a4a_200gb_ultra_uhs_i_microsdxc.html

The R-07 is only compatible with cards up to 32gb.

I know of users that formatted 64 gig cards(only formats as 32) in the R-07 and wound up with card errors. My suggestion..use 32 gig or smaller cards.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #305 on: July 19, 2018, 02:15:58 PM »
good to know

strange that a current recorder cant handle the cheap and common SDXC cards. i mean i get it with my 5 year old pmd661 but this is a 2018 device and has less compatibility than cell phones from several years ago
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #306 on: July 19, 2018, 02:34:27 PM »
good to know

strange that a current recorder cant handle the cheap and common SDXC cards. i mean i get it with my 5 year old pmd661 but this is a 2018 device and has less compatibility than cell phones from several years ago
It is not that unusual. The fairly new Zoom F1 also has a 32gb limit. It may have more to do with the OS and the potential for hundreds of files with a larger card requiring more storage and sorting capabilities.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #307 on: July 22, 2018, 12:40:53 PM »
I share with you impressions of my first night with R-07:
- bluetooth connection lost everytime I lock/put to sleep/put off the screen of my Samsung Galaxy S7 (Android). Workaround (it worked 100% of times): close app, off smartphone bluetooth, on smartphone bluetooth, reopen app, search and connect R-07
- very very very low usb transfer speed (1,5 MB/s - it's the USB 1.1 max speed. R-07 supports USB 2.0. Used in a USB 3.0 port with Win10)

Both appear to be sw problems that could be fixed in future fw releases.

I share with you impressions of my second night with R-07:
- if I switch among apps (without lock the smartphone), when I come back to R-07 app it is freezed for 5/10 seconds. Then it goes live again.
- [VERY IMPORTANT] On Android app, input level bars are correct but peak cursors are broken. If peaks are below -10db they are correct, If they are above -10db they are stuck on over. Yesterday I have a lot of "over", but at home levels were at -9/-6db MAX. Limiter was OFF.

I'm unable to send all this info to the customer support because I live outside USA. Italian support doesn't provide email support, so if someone wants to send to them all this information... I think that they are all FW or SW(app) problems that they could fix easily.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #308 on: July 22, 2018, 01:44:22 PM »
"its a feature not a bug"!!!!
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #309 on: July 22, 2018, 01:54:09 PM »
Okay, just given my R-07 its first real run in the real world, a weekend festival.

Battery:

After 4 hours of recording the battery level is just down one segment, so whilst not on the M10 level of miraculous battery life it should be okay in practice.

Bluetooth:

Never had a problem testing in the house, but in the actual venue the connection always failed whenever I went into the app. The device was in my pocket, and the phone was in my hand, so we're only talking inches. I could only get it to work by switching the phone off, and back on again, which is clearly going to be a pain.

Dual levels:

My setup was Church CAF mics > Church Ugly Battery Box > R-07 so no amplification at all, but using the dual levels with the safety track the minimal level of 42 is clearly too high for my requirements. I was recording loud bands, but not THAT loud, and the main track was peaking into red. I ended up switching the dual recording off.

Sound quality:

Really not bad, at least not noticeably different to the Sony M10.

So now I'm undecided. I love the idea of subtly checking levels on my phone, but if the app is going to freeze all the time it going to be no better than just looking for the green flashing lights on the M10. I love the idea of a a safety track, but if the main track is always going to peak there is only effectively one track.

In practice I think this will still prove to be a useful recorder, just not as useful as hoped. I'll be recording one track only, rather than two, so have the full range of input levels, and monitoring for the first 10 mins without closing the app on the phone.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #310 on: July 22, 2018, 02:29:17 PM »
In addition I should add that I'm using a 64gb card with no problem at all.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #311 on: July 22, 2018, 02:53:17 PM »
Bluetooth:

Never had a problem testing in the house, but in the actual venue the connection always failed whenever I went into the app. The device was in my pocket, and the phone was in my hand, so we're only talking inches. I could only get it to work by switching the phone off, and back on again, which is clearly going to be a pain.
Did you try to close app/switch off Bluetooth/switch on Bluetooth/open app and reconnect? It worked for me 100% of times (android smartphone).
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #312 on: July 22, 2018, 03:03:48 PM »
Did you try to close app/switch off Bluetooth/switch on Bluetooth/open app and reconnect? It worked for me 100% of times (android smartphone).

I tried everything, sometimes it would work, sometimes not. The only thing that was 100% successful was switching the phone (a Samsung S9+) off and on.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #313 on: July 23, 2018, 05:24:35 PM »
In addition I should add that I'm using a 64gb card with no problem at all.

When you say "no problem at all" are you stating that the deck shows 64gb available or is it just 32gb available. the manual says the deck does not support SDXC cards, so I am curious. And while unlikely, maybe that has something to do with the Bluetooth failures although it may be more a combination of phone type. I switched from an LG G6 to an LG G7 and the Bluetooth while fine before is improved and the linking to Bluetooth devices seems much better. I have not had any Bluetooth connecting issues with my R07, but I get out of the app and then go back into it so I do not accidentally hit anything while it is in my pocket. This is not to say the app remains connected. It does freeze after a long lack of use, but I just reconnect and it shows me right where the time is currently. Like I said the card probably has no affect, but you are using a card that is not supported by the deck.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #314 on: July 24, 2018, 09:18:20 AM »
When you say "no problem at all" are you stating that the deck shows 64gb available or is it just 32gb available.

You are absolutely correct. I've just plugged the R-07 into my computer to check and there is only 32GB available. Oh well, goes to look for a 32GB card.

Edit: I've currently got a 128GB card working in my Sony M10 and I think the manual for that says the limit is 32GB. I let the R-07 format this card, has anybody else tried Guiformat FAT32? I'll give it a go later.
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