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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #315 on: July 24, 2018, 02:01:22 PM »
Recently my M10 started distorting when using line in for the mics. However, the mic in jack works just fine.

Since I figure the M10 is on its last legs, I ordered and just received the R-07 as a replacement. Haven't even started to connect everything and test yet.

I am disappointed that it didn't come with a cable to connect to a computer (like the M10 did). Since I'm not up on all the different types of USB connectors, it took awhile to figure out that the R-07 needs a micro B > USB A data transfer cable. The manual only says to use a "commercially available USB cable".

My searches came up with some users complaining that their cable didn't work and the answer was "Are you using a data transfer cable?" Charging cables apparently will not work.

As stated earlier, I'm not familiar with the various types of USB connections so I checked with Roland and they sell their RCC-3-UAUM cable. Checked around and B&H has it for $9.99 w/ free shipping which seems to be close in price to other available micro > A cables (especially because here in Hawaii, sometimes they charge more to ship an item than the price of the item itself).

So, if anybody finds themselves in a similar situation, check out B&H for your cable.


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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #316 on: July 24, 2018, 03:47:26 PM »
You can also buy a cardreader and hook that up to your pc.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #317 on: July 24, 2018, 04:29:25 PM »

 Charging cables apparently will not work.

I have no trouble using a regular charging cable that came with my phone. It is much slower than pulling the card, but I use it after a show to listen in my car on the way home and also to transfer if I am not in any rush. The difference on a roughly 2gb show is about 10 minutes through the cable and about 30 seconds in a card reader. If you find the B and H cable is significantly faster, that would be great to know.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #318 on: July 24, 2018, 04:52:51 PM »

 Charging cables apparently will not work.

I have no trouble using a regular charging cable that came with my phone. It is much slower than pulling the card, but I use it after a show to listen in my car on the way home and also to transfer if I am not in any rush. The difference on a roughly 2gb show is about 10 minutes through the cable and about 30 seconds in a card reader. If you find the B and H cable is significantly faster, that would be great to know.

I am under the impression that some USB cables literally are charging only. Presumably some manufacturers shave a few cents off the cost of cable production by using two wires instead of four...
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #319 on: July 28, 2018, 09:43:14 PM »
I've been looking to upgrade the standard 8GB sdhc card that is included in the box with the R-07 with a 32 GB.

The Roland compatibility chart states only that Panasonic cards will not work nor will sdxc cards.

Any ideas if the San Disk Ultra sdhc and/or Extreme sdhc card is compatible?
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Spent some time over at http://rolandusa.com/backstage looking for answers on the above.

Although there is no specific information anywhere for the R-07, one post addressed a different unit where Roland recommended class 2, 4 or 6 sdhc cards for compatibility.

Several google searches about sdhc card classes (this is all new to me) say that UH type cards will not work in a non UH compatible machine. This would eliminate the Sandisk Ultra and Extreme cards.

It appears that in the 32GB capacity, Sandisk only goes as high as class 4 micro hdsc cards.

I also specifically mention Sandisk here because the Roland manual lists only Sandisk cards as recommended for the R-07 at this time.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #320 on: July 29, 2018, 07:39:53 AM »
Just to update some findings on SD cards:

Previously I tried a 64GB card and let the R-07 format it. I thought it was working fine, but following advice here realised that it was only formatted up to the same capacity of a 32GB card. In the SD card information is shows capacity of 26.22GB, when the SD card is connected directly to a computer it shows capacity of 26.22GB, and when the R-07 is connected directly to the computer it also shows a capacity of 26.22GB.

I have then used Guiformat FAT32 to format a 64GB sdxc card and got the following results. It would record to the card, and in the SD card information it shows a capacity of 59.44GB. When I remove the SD card and connect directly to the computer all the recorded files are visible and can be played, and the capacity is shown as 59.44GB. But it was not recognised when the R-07 was connected to the computer, the card needs to be removed.

I have used Guiformat FAT32 to get a number of cards to work in a number devices which stated larger cards were not supported, including the Sony M10 which I had a 128GB card working in.

It would seem that to be absolutely safe for now only used 32GB cards, but I am leaving the 64GB card in for now and will report back on performance later.



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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #321 on: July 29, 2018, 10:37:19 AM »
I already reported card error issues when using
64 gig cards formatted to 32. Hope you don’t lose
an important recording like two of my friends did already.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #322 on: July 29, 2018, 02:41:48 PM »
As anyone found any third-party cases that fit the r-07, such as battery cases etc?

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #323 on: July 29, 2018, 03:13:02 PM »
As anyone found any third-party cases that fit the r-07, such as battery cases etc?

Years ago, someone on this board suggested the following for the Sony M-10 and it fit perfectly.

https://www.amazon.com/Zune-Gear-Bag/dp/B000IXNEI4

I tried mine with the R-07 and the R-07 is much smaller than the M10 but it fits and the built in strap holds the R-07 in place. I wouldn't be throwing the bag around with the R-07 in it but the case will provide hardshell protection. The extra compartments will fit your battery box, earplugs and some connecting cables and perhaps mics of the stealthier variety.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #324 on: July 30, 2018, 09:29:20 AM »
So, I've been testing my new R-07 in the house, reading the manual and such... Does anyone know if it is possible to block other people from connecting to my R-07? From what I read, it would be possible for anyone with the app to connect to my R-07...
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #325 on: July 30, 2018, 07:12:21 PM »
I did not own an R07 so it might handle things differently, but most Bluetooth devices have a pairing process or mode the unit needs to be during your first connection via Bluetooth. After that the devices usually just connect. If the R07 is similar then it would need to be in that mode for just anyone to connect. But someone with a unit would have to confirm if that’s the case.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #326 on: July 31, 2018, 06:26:34 AM »
I'm currently sat at work with two phones on my desk, my Samsung S9 and a work iPhone. The Samsung is what I use to connect to my R-07.

Out of curiosity I have just retrieved my R-07 from my briefcase, switched it on, and then tried to connect my iPhone to it without going in the R-07. I couldn't, and neither did the R-07 appear a visible device.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #327 on: July 31, 2018, 06:44:20 AM »
I already reported card error issues when using
64 gig cards formatted to 32. Hope you don’t lose
an important recording like two of my friends did already.

I would concur that anybody recording anything important should definitely stick to 32GB cards.

My situation is as follows:

1. I'm stubborn and don't like to be told what to do.
2. I like to record nature and leave my recorder outside for two days or more. I'm not going to use my expensive devices for this. Previously I used my M10, but since it became discontinued it's become an expensive device. I would now prefer to use my R07.

I can confirm as above, that using the freeware Guiformat FAT32 to format a 64GB sdxc card makes it all available to use in the R07. But to transfer data you have to take the card out of the recorder and use an SD card adapter.

I've just done some testing by doing a number of recordings over a few days, including leaving the recorder on record overnight, to almost fill the card. It seems to work okay.
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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #328 on: July 31, 2018, 05:24:04 PM »
2. I like to record nature and leave my recorder outside for two days or more.


So what is it you record then? The singing birds? What purpose does it have?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not mocking you or disrespecting you. I'm genuinly interested in what's so interesting about recording nature.

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Re: New Roland R-07 (the best successor to Roland R-05 and Sony M10?)
« Reply #329 on: August 01, 2018, 12:49:11 AM »
2. I like to record nature and leave my recorder outside for two days or more.


So what is it you record then? The singing birds? What purpose does it have?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not mocking you or disrespecting you. I'm genuinly interested in what's so interesting about recording nature.

Check out this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSAqx3m8SfM&feature=youtu.be&t=24m24s

and start at 24:24 to get a little bit of an idea why.

 

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