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decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« on: April 08, 2019, 07:57:32 PM »
cant remember where i read it but there were some mics that can do decent hi spl below 2V, it was some brand i never heard of. also i think some church and SP mics can run on PIP with acceptable results. ive seen several recorders with PIP in the 2-3V range, which is a little low for 4063s which are relatively expensive as well

they dont need to be off-the-shelf necessarily. if resistor mods can help accomplish the same thing, they are fair game

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2019, 11:22:44 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2019, 11:45:31 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.

I had great results running mine with PIP from the MixPre 6 at a John Kadlecik solo acoustic show, though it wasn't a loud show at all.

Here's a sample of the first set (mke2 only): https://drive.google.com/file/d/13KCB7E_cEfybdPuEvYeQ_g3-4qSLL1hr/view?usp=sharing

If all goes well, I'll be taping a few shows at 420 Fest next week so I'll have more examples after that.
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 11:55:15 AM »
Oscarsoundtech -tram clones 1.3v

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 01:38:24 PM »
AKG CK77’s can run off 1.5V and handle pretty reasonable SPLs, though do best with 9-12v. They are omni’s.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 10:56:26 AM »
Though I'm not optimistic about the results, I will be testing the Sennheiser MKE2 mics this Friday with only PiP from my Roland R-05.  If by some miracle they perform well, I'll be shouting from the mountaintop about it.

I have a pair of MKE2s that I run on the plug-in power from a Marantz PMD620.  Works great.  Really minimalist too...

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2019, 03:50:37 PM »
MKE2s confuse me. It seems like there are a number of models and the documentation in on what the difference is,  isn’t all that great
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2019, 08:55:06 AM »
MKE2s confuse me. It seems like there are a number of models and the documentation in on what the difference is,  isn’t all that great

You're not the only one.  They have made quite a few models and they have also varied over the long time they have been part of the Sennheiser lineup.

The ones I have are 10 mV/Pa and can run to spec on quite low voltages, but I have seen others with completely different specs.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2019, 07:43:00 PM »
countryman B3's do alright in PIP on my M10. Not sure of the SPL but I think around 130 sounds close. Low voltage. Lots of termination options.

I've since read 140 dB w/p48 power. 'Not sure it is w/lower volts.
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2019, 06:02:04 AM »
Maybe you were thinking about these?  https://store.lom.audio/collections/microphones-accessories/products/mikrousi
Looks promising. Did anyone try these mics? How good are these for recoding loud metal music only using with PIP?

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2019, 01:05:17 PM »
There's a thread on the Lom mics including the MikroUsi:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=188540.0

No one has chimed in regarding loud metal music.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2019, 06:51:54 AM »
That's not much. I e-mailed to the company about the question.

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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2019, 01:46:37 PM »
It seems like the LOM and other mics are based on the Primo capsule which is commonly available for cheap it’s like one step up from the old Panasonic capsules people used to build mic rigs with (sonic studios dsm etc). It’s got a wide input power range for sure
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Re: decent low-power (PIP) 2 wire mics
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2019, 10:31:04 AM »
LOM audio replied and said those mikroUsi mics are not recommended for loud music.

 

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