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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #60 on: December 30, 2019, 04:59:17 PM »
So I’m gonna roll the A10 for the first time, Maceo Parker 😈 4v>nbobs>babynbox>A10. What’s an educated guess for a safety level? I have the record app but still want some sort of benchmark from which to adjust. FOB/DFC/25’ in a 2-3k room.

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I'd start with audio in around 10
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2019, 05:41:48 PM »
So I’m gonna roll the A10 for the first time, Maceo Parker 😈 4v>nbobs>babynbox>A10. What’s an educated guess for a safety level? I have the record app but still want some sort of benchmark from which to adjust. FOB/DFC/25’ in a 2-3k room.

Thanks!


I'd start with audio in around 10

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2019, 08:28:56 PM »
I have run my new A-10 twice now.
First night on stage, with limiter, record level 6, and it kept the peaks down below zero, but flattened the tops of level peaks.


Second night I ran in back of the room without limiters, and again, only monitored with the app due to placement. This time, I ape the levels mostly out of the red (lowered them when they tagged it) but the file has lots of clipped peaks of over.


Are level indications on the app inaccurate? Was this mentioned earlier? Thanks.
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Interestingly, I can pair the Sony and also use the sound devices bluetooth just by switching apps!

On the second night, did you have your mics run through any kind of mix/pre? I ran into a problem where my preamp overloaded internally, but my levels were fine on the A10 and I wasnt aware until listening later.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2019, 09:07:23 PM »
On the second night, did you have your mics run through any kind of mix/pre? I ran into a problem where my preamp overloaded internally, but my levels were fine on the A10 and I wasnt aware until listening later.
No, I have fancy unreliable gear from other manufacturers all patched in with my good mics as my "A" unit, so this is just my backup with internal mics.
On night three, I noticed that the machine was not rolling for the start of the second band. Either I stopped it on purpose after the first band (I don't think so) or stopped it by accident with the app, or perhaps it crashed? I vote for #2. I was all over my phone and the app has TWO ways to wreck the recording - pause or stop!?!
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2019, 11:09:19 PM »
So I’m gonna roll the A10 for the first time, Maceo Parker 😈 4v>nbobs>babynbox>A10. What’s an educated guess for a safety level? I have the record app but still want some sort of benchmark from which to adjust. FOB/DFC/25’ in a 2-3k room.

Thanks!


I'd start with audio in around 10

this. and remember audio in is 0-30 so 10 isnt as low as it seems
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #65 on: December 31, 2019, 08:57:25 AM »
So I’m gonna roll the A10 for the first time, Maceo Parker 😈 4v>nbobs>babynbox>A10. What’s an educated guess for a safety level? I have the record app but still want some sort of benchmark from which to adjust. FOB/DFC/25’ in a 2-3k room.

Thanks!


I'd start with audio in around 10


this. and remember audio in is 0-30 so 10 isnt as low as it seems

for one gnr show, i ran sax @ ~ +10db into the a10 and ended the night with the a10 at like 3. The recording was fine but i was nervous until i played it back and it was fine.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #66 on: December 31, 2019, 10:31:27 AM »
weve come a long way from the lowly d8 that would brickwall below 4/10!
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2020, 02:45:23 PM »
I don't imagine you'll have to use the preamp for amplified music. I haven't, at least.

Running a babynbox in front means I’ll need mic in. No gain from the babynbox
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2020, 06:52:37 PM »
not necessarily.its not like there’s not gain with audio-in, it’s just in a different range
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #69 on: January 02, 2020, 02:41:23 PM »
I don't imagine you'll have to use the preamp for amplified music. I haven't, at least.

Running a babynbox in front means I’ll need mic in. No gain from the babynbox
I ran line in with MK41>BabyNBox for Dylan with good results.

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2020, 04:53:03 PM »
Is there a typical set of "settings" when using a preamp like the nBox?

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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2020, 10:32:19 PM »
any line-level source should start with "audio in" around 10 as mentioned above
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #72 on: January 03, 2020, 03:38:59 AM »
I ran line in with MK41>BabyNBox for Dylan with good results.
Any recollection (or screen shot) of the level setting for that? ... just for reference...
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #73 on: January 03, 2020, 11:31:00 AM »
I don't imagine you'll have to use the preamp for amplified music. I haven't, at least.

Running a babynbox in front means I’ll need mic in. No gain from the babynbox
I ran line in with MK41>BabyNBox for Dylan with good results.


that's surprising. Have to play with it. I'd way prefer going line in.

not sure how often line in will work. Just did a test with the 4v>babynbox>A10 wide open 5' from a loud ass source and I barely crack -12.
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Re: Sony PCM-A10 (Part 2)
« Reply #74 on: January 03, 2020, 12:44:49 PM »
My A10 just arrived yesterday, so allow me to join the "Wow, is it small!" chorus.

Planning on doing some side-by-side tests with an M10 at a show next week, will report back here on the results.

 

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