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Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« on: January 08, 2020, 08:36:01 AM »
I’m in the process of moving my masters to g drive for backup. Curious if anyone else foes the same and if you have any concerns about this solution? I feel comfortable my files will be protected and backed up so I’t need to worry about drive failures anymore. Is there anything that concerns you about this solution I should be thinking about - outside of the annual fee?

Also, thought it would he cool if we could open our collections to others with view / read access. I’d be willing to share mine. I haven’t moved everything yet but in the process now
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2020, 09:31:56 AM »
A friend has done that big time, thousands of hours of music he now accesses from phone. He swears by it, but damn, it must have taken an awful lot of work

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2020, 10:02:38 AM »
A friend has done that big time, thousands of hours of music he now accesses from phone. He swears by it, but damn, it must have taken an awful lot of work

google music is different than google drive

google music will scan an entire drive automatically and convert flacs to 320CBR and tag them and upload them to the cloud. 100000 tracks for free, buying the service only gives you access to their catalog (spotify style)

google drive is good for all kinds of files, i have a 2TB that i pay $10 a month for. you can stream mp3s and flacs from there as well, but it isnt as user friendly, more like one track a time, doesnt do playlists well
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2020, 11:56:12 AM »
I use Google Drive.  Actually GSuite (The business version).  $12 a month for unlimited data storage.  All I needed to do was register a domain w/ google ($12 a year) and then unlimited for $12 a month.  Rocks w/ fiber 1GB/s up no-cap, but I'm lucky to have that available in my apartment.

There's a great Reddit group here https://old.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/ - ( that has tons of threads on cloud options / RClone (archives to GDrive/etc) / encryption options / etc

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2020, 12:11:25 PM »
I use Google Drive.  Actually GSuite (The business version).  $12 a month for unlimited data storage.

cant beat that....

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2020, 01:47:30 PM »
I have 12TB backed up through Backblaze. I think it is/was around $50-$60 a year.
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2020, 02:40:56 PM »
A friend has done that big time, thousands of hours of music he now accesses from phone. He swears by it, but damn, it must have taken an awful lot of work

google music is different than google drive

google music will scan an entire drive automatically and convert flacs to 320CBR and tag them and upload them to the cloud. 100000 tracks for free, buying the service only gives you access to their catalog (spotify style)

google drive is good for all kinds of files, i have a 2TB that i pay $10 a month for. you can stream mp3s and flacs from there as well, but it isnt as user friendly, more like one track a time, doesnt do playlists well

I’m using an app called cloudbeats that reads google drive and lets me manage and play my music stored there. Seems to work well, reads tags, etc.

Thanks for the responses. For some reason im hesitant to delete my files after ive uploaded them to google drive. Lol i need someone to talk me off the ledge and tell me they will all be safe there forever
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2020, 02:55:25 PM »
I'd be thinking about what your contingency plans are if (god forbid) G-Drive has an issue, or you get hacked, or whatever making the file copies in the cloud unattainable/unusable. How will you restore the data you kept at Google?

For this reason, in 2020, I continue to make and store a copy of the data files burned to a DVD as one of the three + redundancies attempting to keep my recordings around for as long as I can.

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2020, 04:37:38 PM »
What he said. Actually, perks, you beat me to it, almost exactly what I was I was about to type, until I saw your post.

Honestly, I don't believe there is a hosting solution on the planet (or in the "cloud") that can't be compromised; or fall victim to the same types of attacks as a localized server. Redundant arrays are only a stopgap security measure, if an entire network becomes crippled.
That's not paranoia, but just a pragmatic outlook.

In particular, I can think of plenty of reasons why hackers, etc, might feel inclined to stick it to Google, given that entity's propensity for paving the way in data mining, so if folks want to keep their data on G-Drive, I seriously hope that it is kept somewhere safe at home at the same time. Just sayin'.

Personally, I'm still a big fan of using data discs as one form of backup, because in a worst-case scenario, it might be easier to stomach the loss of 4.7GB worth of data, as opposed to 1TB (or more).

Having said that, I'm a tad regretful that a while back when I learned the JVC TY DVD discs were being discontinued, I didn't stock up on *more* of them than I did, as it seems a number of counterfeiters have been infiltrating the market with inferior knock-offs that claim to be Powered by TY Technology, or what have you. I've recently picked up a few various brands making this claim (including *some* which were branded CMC Pro), which turned out to be fakes. So... that's a thing now.

My 2¢ worth. YMMV. Peace out.

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I'd be thinking about what your contingency plans are if (god forbid) G-Drive has an issue, or you get hacked, or whatever making the file copies in the cloud unattainable/unusable. How will you restore the data you kept at Google?

For this reason, in 2020, I continue to make and store a copy of the data files burned to a DVD as one of the three + redundancies attempting to keep my recordings around for as long as I can.
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2020, 04:48:48 PM »
I have 12TB backed up through Backblaze. I think it is/was around $50-$60 a year.

How long did that take to backup?

I have about 11 TB of data on a NAS. I have a backup that runs nightly to another NAS at my brothers house, but I've considered doing the online route too.

I really wish my job would let me leave the NAS hooked up to the network for a few hours. We have a 40 Gig connection. Shouldn't take long at all. I have a 100M connection at home. I think it would take WEEKS to transfer that much data and I have a 1TB cap, so technically it would take over a year to finish it all.

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2020, 04:57:15 PM »
What he said. Actually, perks, you beat me to it, almost exactly what I was I was about to type, until I saw your post.

Honestly, I don't believe there is a hosting solution on the planet (or in the "cloud") that can't be compromised; or fall victim to the same types of attacks as a localized server. Redundant arrays are only a stopgap security measure, if an entire network becomes crippled.
That's not paranoia, but just a pragmatic outlook.

In particular, I can think of plenty of reasons why hackers, etc, might feel inclined to stick it to Google, given that entity's propensity for paving the way in data mining, so if folks want to keep their data on G-Drive, I seriously hope that it is kept somewhere safe at home at the same time. Just sayin'.

Personally, I'm still a big fan of using data discs as one form of backup, because in a worst-case scenario, it might be easier to stomach the loss of 4.7GB worth of data, as opposed to 1TB (or more).

Having said that, I'm a tad regretful that a while back when I learned the JVC TY DVD discs were being discontinued, I didn't stock up on *more* of them than I did, as it seems a number of counterfeiters have been infiltrating the market with inferior knock-offs that claim to be Powered by TY Technology, or what have you. I've recently picked up a few various brands making this claim (including *some* which were branded CMC Pro), which turned out to be fakes. So... that's a thing now.

My 2¢ worth. YMMV. Peace out.

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I'd be thinking about what your contingency plans are if (god forbid) G-Drive has an issue, or you get hacked, or whatever making the file copies in the cloud unattainable/unusable. How will you restore the data you kept at Google?

For this reason, in 2020, I continue to make and store a copy of the data files burned to a DVD as one of the three + redundancies attempting to keep my recordings around for as long as I can.

I was debating a g-drive -> aws synch solution as well. I agree wholeheartedly on the risk and need for redundancy.
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2020, 07:14:16 PM »
how much of these collections are duplicated? we should chip in for a 20TB slot and upload all our stuff there
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2020, 03:14:44 AM »
how much of these collections are duplicated? we should chip in for a 20TB slot and upload all our stuff there
Why? Because then it is safe forever?
What if we go back to "Tape tree" style "vines" but send around a large drive full of FLAC folders?
My BitTorrent directory is about 1.5 TB and that does NOT include most of my mastered file sets but mostly a bunch of assorted downloads I might enjoy.
My "completed audio" folders are between 30-70GB per year the past few. Total about 1TB over the past 12 years or so.


Are we ready to really contemplate the size of our collective data set?


I keep masters and completed items, as well as raw mixes (sbd + aud for instance) and mastered mixes (gain + limited versions of the raw mixes, to be tracked out but still including heads & tails.)

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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2020, 10:25:14 AM »
How safe is it to store stealth recordings on Google Drive, Backblaze or whatever? How much do they care about their users integrity? Is it possible for artists and labels to use some algorithm to find illegally recorded music or videos? Didn't Megaupload and other cloud services have a lot of problems in the past with users sharing illegal things in their clouds? Is it safer nowadays?

I'm considering this route as well but I'm a bit afraid it will bite me in the end.
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Re: Anyone else using Google Drive for storage
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2020, 10:26:01 AM »
I’m worried about storing anything online.
I have three copies of my archives, when I add something
software automatically copies to my other two archives.

Once in a while (2 in last 6 years) I replace a drive and copy it.
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