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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2020, 05:03:03 PM »
Of course!
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BTW, expect something that Tapers would very much like....Coming to the MixPre shortly!
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Will this update be applicable to the legacy MP6?



Yes!

Perhaps adding support for 32-bit Float files in Wave Agent?
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2020, 08:32:45 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2020, 10:28:00 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.

Wave Agent already works with Catalina .... it's all here in black and white ....
https://www.sounddevices.com/installing-wave-agent-on-mac-os-catalina/

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2020, 10:38:24 PM »
I wonder if we'll see a new version of Wave Agent with macOS Catalina and beyond support.  Desktop iMac in my signature is running High Sierra but I picked up a new MacBook a couple months back that came with Catalina.

Wave Agent already works with Catalina .... it's all here in black and white ....
https://www.sounddevices.com/installing-wave-agent-on-mac-os-catalina/

Thank you Paul!  That worked like a charm I must have missed something before.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2020, 12:30:24 PM »

MixPre Firmware 7.10

Released: July 28, 2020

https://www.sounddevices.com/download/

Introducing front panel locks. Press channel knobs 1, 2, and 3 to enter the new Front Panel menu. Lock transport controls, touchscreen, channel knobs, and/or the headphone knob to avoid accidental changes or when you are leaving your MixPre unattended.
Additional USB keyboard shortcuts:
Ctrl + M = Add cue marker
Ctrl + F = File transfer mode
9, 0 = Channel screens 9 and 10 on MixPre-10T and MixPre-10 II
Ctrl + 1-0 =  Toggle arm status of channels 1-10
Option + 1-0 = Solo channels 1-10
Ctrl + Option +  1-0: Mute channels 1-10
1 + 2 + 3 = Enters Front Panel menu
Change

Holding down a key on a USB keyboard for >0.5s now repeats the command. This improves usability of keyboards for setting gain and other functions.
Fixed

Elapsed time display is no longer missing from the home screen status bar of the MixPre-3, MixPre-3 II, MixPre-6, and MixPre-6 II.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2020, 07:30:32 PM »

MixPre Firmware 7.10

Released: July 28, 2020

https://www.sounddevices.com/download/

Introducing front panel locks. Press channel knobs 1, 2, and 3 to enter the new Front Panel menu. Lock transport controls, touchscreen, channel knobs, and/or the headphone knob to avoid accidental changes or when you are leaving your MixPre unattended.
Additional USB keyboard shortcuts:
Ctrl + M = Add cue marker
Ctrl + F = File transfer mode
9, 0 = Channel screens 9 and 10 on MixPre-10T and MixPre-10 II
Ctrl + 1-0 =  Toggle arm status of channels 1-10
Option + 1-0 = Solo channels 1-10
Ctrl + Option +  1-0: Mute channels 1-10
1 + 2 + 3 = Enters Front Panel menu
Change

Holding down a key on a USB keyboard for >0.5s now repeats the command. This improves usability of keyboards for setting gain and other functions.
Fixed

Elapsed time display is no longer missing from the home screen status bar of the MixPre-3, MixPre-3 II, MixPre-6, and MixPre-6 II.

SWEET!  Anyone try it out yet?  Throw a video on imgur.

BTW, THANKS PAUL!  I feel like you had a hand in this much desired feature.
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Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2020, 09:16:26 PM »
Updating from v7.0 only took a single reboot, performed the update but haven't had time to use after updating.
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2020, 12:45:36 PM »
Updated to v7.10 and the lock controls are great!  Haven't tested everything else out. 
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2020, 03:21:42 PM »
I've tested a few things and so far so good.  haven't tested live recording ;)  the issues I had on v6 with using mics with mp as a usb interface (for zoom etc) is gone.  that likely could have been user error but it worked as intended on 4 and 7.10.  I restored to factory and reconfigured for good measure....
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #39 on: September 14, 2020, 11:02:14 PM »
I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382309-REG/hawk_woods_sd_2_mixpwr_sound_devices_mix_pre.html
What's the difference in these two? I ordered the Hawk Woods one not seeing the other one but both are listed here at B&H.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #40 on: September 15, 2020, 10:28:45 AM »
Same sled one is just rebranded as a Sound devices model!  The only difference is price.

I like the L mount batteries!  Sound devices is selling a rebranded Hawks-wood sled that is really nice.  With this you could use the Hirose as a backup.  I had the double sled initally, but prefer the MX-LM1 better for form factor. 

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1552857-REG/sound_devices_mx_lm1_l_mount_battery_sled_f_mizpre.html
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1382309-REG/hawk_woods_sd_2_mixpwr_sound_devices_mix_pre.html
What's the difference in these two? I ordered the Hawk Woods one not seeing the other one but both are listed here at B&H.
Microtech Gefell m20's> Nbob KCY> Naiant PFA(60v) or AKG ck61's & ck63's> Naiant Actives> Sound Devices Mixpre-6 @24/48

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2020, 01:17:21 AM »
I've run a few shows now on my MixPre-10 II with 7.10 installed.  Loving it. My biggest grip with the mixpre was lack of a transport lock function.

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2020, 07:15:12 PM »
I've run a few shows now on my MixPre-10 II with 7.10 installed.  Loving it. My biggest grip with the mixpre was lack of a transport lock function.

I just did my first run with it an hour ago for a soundcheck.  loving the lock options on everything.

hopefully all goes well tonight too!
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DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
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Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2020, 05:48:20 AM »
im back on team mixpre. got a first-gen 6 again, and am attempting to break SD cards at max bitrate with 7.10 ;)

refresh me if im wrong, the first thread on the gen IIs was long... apart from the adjustable limiters, the analog input path is identical in both units, correct?

there was a comparison file offered from Sound Devices that compared low-level sounds on the II series in both 24-bit and 32-bit modes

if you scroll down that page you will see the comp was criticized for not implementing dither on the 24-bit file

i wonder how the non-32-bit series I handles 24-bit. I would imagine dither would be implemented by default, but as Paul mentioned in the subsequent discussion, it was a design/implementation decision, decided to be of no consequence to the average user

that said, if dither is implemented correctly, could the series I at low level equal the performance of the series II at 32-bit (or perhaps be superior for those who choose to use series II in 24-bit?)
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Re: New Sound Devices MixPre II-series coming? part 2
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2020, 10:45:29 PM »
im back on team mixpre. got a first-gen 6 again, and am attempting to break SD cards at max bitrate with 7.10 ;)

refresh me if im wrong, the first thread on the gen IIs was long... apart from the adjustable limiters, the analog input path is identical in both units, correct?

there was a comparison file offered from Sound Devices that compared low-level sounds on the II series in both 24-bit and 32-bit modes

if you scroll down that page you will see the comp was criticized for not implementing dither on the 24-bit file

i wonder how the non-32-bit series I handles 24-bit. I would imagine dither would be implemented by default, but as Paul mentioned in the subsequent discussion, it was a design/implementation decision, decided to be of no consequence to the average user

that said, if dither is implemented correctly, could the series I at low level equal the performance of the series II at 32-bit (or perhaps be superior for those who choose to use series II in 24-bit?)

dude, first time out with the II series... never looking back.  32bit is a game changer.  i don't foresee me ever needing another recorder ever again, unless i buy another mixpreX II just to have a second deck for multi stage festivals. 

32bit is magic and completely relieves all my show anxiety around setting levels.

now i can focus my show anxiety toward location and setup (it's never going away.  lol )
Mics:
DPA 4023 (Cardioid)
DPA 4028 (Subcardioid)
DPA 4018V (Supercardioid)
Earthworks TC25 (Omni) 

Pres and A/D's:
Grace Design Lunatec V3 (Oade ACM)
Edirol UA-5 (bm2p+ Mod)

Recorders:
Sound Devices MixPre10 II
Edirol R-44 (Oade CM)
Sony PCM‑M10

 

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