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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #600 on: November 11, 2025, 03:58:06 PM »
Fun with sum/difference processing!

Sound wise it ends up being somewhat akin to the more common 4 channel arrangement of a Mid/Side pair + a spaced L/R pair mixed together.

I originally did that as a playback work around for the lack of panning control on the R44, where channels 1 & 3 are always routed Left and channels 2 and 3 always routed Right.  Only way I could get channel 1 or 3 panned to center was to turn on Mid/Side decoding, which assigns those channels as "Mid".  The additional pseudo-stereo aspects of the rearward-facing Back channel acting as Side-channel was secondary and sort of came along for the ride after the primary goal of getting the forward facing center microphone channel panned to center had been achieved.  Thankfully it proved useful and attractive despite the asymmetric low frequency reinforcement/cancellation.  Taking it one step further by routing the rear-facing channel left and right but with a symmetric polarity-inverted phase relationship, achieved by way of that VST plugin, avoids all the asymmetric reinforcement/cancellation stuff.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #601 on: November 11, 2025, 04:32:09 PM »
It's more than just clever, it's genius level, and my hat's off to you, Igor!

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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #602 on: November 12, 2025, 04:16:14 AM »
Ran these hat-mounted with AT943 cards 4.7k modded as mic in, first at +21dB then at +24 dB. Still plenty of headroom, excellent results. Maybe I should've actually uncoupled the gain control to adjust for L/R imbalance, but kinda hard to make that call in the field.


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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #603 on: December 03, 2025, 02:45:36 PM »
Has anyone tried it with Panasonic WM61A capsules? I have a pair of it that I built about 15 years ago and I dug it up and connected to this recorder. Since these capsules are not really low sensitivity, maybe they are good with this PIP to record purely acoustic performances? Like a singer and and a guitarist performing in front of you.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #604 on: December 04, 2025, 09:38:06 AM »
Should power them okay.  Best to do a test to determine where the SPL overload point lies.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #605 on: December 04, 2025, 02:00:59 PM »
I will try it somehow, maybe with loud speakers to find out which level settings are good.

Also installed firmware v2.1. Did anyone notice anything improvevent? It just says fixes rare bugs.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #606 on: December 04, 2025, 03:17:37 PM »
I will try it somehow, maybe with loud speakers to find out which level settings are good.

Also installed firmware v2.1. Did anyone notice anything improvevent? It just says fixes rare bugs.

I didn't run into the bugs, but I haven't seen any problems since upgrading to 2.1. 
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #607 on: December 04, 2025, 03:38:35 PM »
^ Same.  Prior to using two PR-2s simultaneously sharing control and clock sync via the Sidus app, I upgraded both recorders to the latest firmware about a month back.  Have made 2 recordings since then, both without recorder related problems.

..which is not to say without any problem. I neglected to use a locking input Y cable into the newer PR-2 and that connection came loose prior to the second recording session.  Both recorders ran fine and seemingly in sync, just without any content being recorded onto the second one.  Bummer.  Should have gaff-taped that connection at least.
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Re: Deity PR-2 Pocket Recorder
« Reply #608 on: Today at 10:33:04 AM »
Been a while since I last posted. 

Local college choir hasn't updated their on line performance video in a while. Typically 30 members, piano and sometimes organ.  One or two soloists.  Sort of thinking about shooting an updated performance video for them. 

The most simple audio recording setup for me would be midside into SD702 and then manually sync to video.  However, I'm wondering about using the PR-2 to send timecode into one or two unused channels on my old DR680 so I'd have more audio input channels than just the two on the SD702  and maybe use a splitter cable to also send TC to my Nikon Z50 II to sync up the recording?   

Thought about buying a new timecode capable recorder, but I don't really want to buy any more audio recorders.   

I don't know how strong the TC output is on the PR-2.  With other timecode devices, I've read that sometimes the TC signal output may not be strong enough to split like this? 

Then I'm wondering how much drift I'll still have between the DR680 and the Z50II despite using the timecode to use to sync?

Another option might be to use a pair of DPA 4061s to record audio directly into the PR-2, but then send timecode output to the Nikon? 


 

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