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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #240 on: June 09, 2025, 03:14:25 PM »
How many of you friends have the bluetooth adapter for the f3? Do you find it beneficial and to offer anything helpful?
It disconnects when out of range, so it's only useful if you will keep remote control near it all the time.

It also disconnects from my iPhone Pro Max 13 randomly, and you can't re-connect it without stopping record.
Zoom really should be embarrassed about this...

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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #241 on: June 09, 2025, 03:34:41 PM »
How many of you friends have the bluetooth adapter for the f3? Do you find it beneficial and to offer anything helpful?
It disconnects when out of range, so it's only useful if you will keep remote control near it all the time.

It also disconnects from my iPhone Pro Max 13 randomly, and you can't re-connect it without stopping record.
Zoom really should be embarrassed about this...
My Android experience is similar. I removed it and do not use the adapter anymore.
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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #242 on: June 27, 2025, 08:16:25 PM »
How many of you friends have the bluetooth adapter for the f3? Do you find it beneficial and to offer anything helpful?
It disconnects when out of range, so it's only useful if you will keep remote control near it all the time.

It also disconnects from my iPhone Pro Max 13 randomly, and you can't re-connect it without stopping record.
Zoom really should be embarrassed about this...

Actually, it'll disconnect if you swipe out of the app.  I've had zero issues with it if you don't do that.

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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #243 on: June 27, 2025, 08:40:37 PM »
How many of you friends have the bluetooth adapter for the f3? Do you find it beneficial and to offer anything helpful?
It disconnects when out of range, so it's only useful if you will keep remote control near it all the time.

It also disconnects from my iPhone Pro Max 13 randomly, and you can't re-connect it without stopping record.
Zoom really should be embarrassed about this...

Actually, it'll disconnect if you swipe out of the app.  I've had zero issues with it if you don't do that.

Same, I have never had mine disconnect unless I shut the app down. When using with S22 ultra.

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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #244 on: July 03, 2025, 11:09:40 AM »
Just had tge app crap out on me which led to me screwing up a recording.  Not doing that again.

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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #245 on: July 26, 2025, 11:44:50 AM »
The menu is pretty simple on this, but is there a list posted of preferred settings? I've been wading thru the pages and can't seem to find one.

There's a setting for mono vs stereo. The nomenclature can be confusing. Mono doesn't combine both inputs to save to a single recording. Mono still records each track into independent files, so you can recreate a stereo mix later. (It's easy enough to split a stereo track or join two mono tracks in your DAW, but my current preference is two mono tracks.) I think it changes the playback in your headphones, so it's not totally useless. Test record both, load the output of both into a DAW, find your own preference. I prefer recording in stereo and do exactly this with the F3 set to mono.

A lot of mics step down phantom voltage, so you could try +24 if you use a condensor and check if the noise floor doesn't change. This might extend battery life a little. If I have USB power, I just run it at 48 because it's the spec.

I turn off the backlight so it doesn't annoy others or draw attention while recording.

Line level becomes important if you connect to a camera. I've always just saved to SD card and merged video with audio later.

If pre-record is at all important to you (a band starts playing without warning after a break, as some are known to do) having 3 extra seconds by keeping the sampling rate at 48 kHz gives you more time to capture the full intro. I keep it at 96 unless I need more recording time. It can't hurt but might help.  :shrug:

I keep "remaining time", since it's more valuable to know how much time is left on the storage than to know how long ago Record was pressed. (The other might be more useful if you heard something cool and want to jump to it right away so you look at the time when that cool thing happened. It's certainly a preference thing...)

32-float for sure.

I leave it on PC/mac even when connecting to a smartphone because my phone provides enough current to run the F3 via USB.

So, my current settings as a list:

  • Recording: Filename "date", sample rate "96", format "mono", prerecord "on", sound marker "off", counter "remaining time"
  • Output: HP alert "-20", line "+4, limiter off no delay"
  • USB I/F: PC, linear (works more generally with Linux), loopback "off", mono mix "on" (I use a single-ear headphone while recording instrument rehearsals), monitor "on"
  • System: date "YYMMDD" (better for sorting), LCD "off, contrast 3", power "Lithium, 10 minute auto-off", timecode (dunno, not a professional video guy)
  • Source: "MIC Phantom, 24V", HPF "off", invert "off", delay "0"
  • Etc: waveform usually between 1 and 8 but it doesn't matter except during in-device monitoring/playback, HP usually 70 to 80 (lower when direct into IEMs), always on HOLD unless otherwise necessary

On the HPF point, use your judgment. Generally, off is preferred for live music.
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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #246 on: July 26, 2025, 01:55:59 PM »
The menu is pretty simple on this, but is there a list posted of preferred settings? I've been wading thru the pages and can't seem to find one.

  • Recording: Filename "date", sample rate "96", format "mono", prerecord "on", sound marker "off", counter "remaining time"
  • Output: HP alert "-20", line "+4, limiter off no delay"
  • USB I/F: PC, linear (works more generally with Linux), loopback "off", mono mix "on" (I use a single-ear headphone while recording instrument rehearsals), monitor "on"
  • System: date "YYMMDD" (better for sorting), LCD "off, contrast 3", power "Lithium, 10 minute auto-off", timecode (dunno, not a professional video guy)
  • Mic: source "48 phantom", HPF "50 Hz", invert "off", delay "0"
  • Etc: waveform usually between 1 and 8, HP usually 70 to 80 (lower when direct into IEMs), always on HOLD unless otherwise necessary


TURN OFF YOUR HPF!


Recording music? You want to capture low bass, and there are lots of fundamentals below 50 Hz.


Low E on a 4-string bass is 41 Hz; I think you will want that.

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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #247 on: July 26, 2025, 02:26:58 PM »
The menu is pretty simple on this, but is there a list posted of preferred settings? I've been wading thru the pages and can't seem to find one.

  • Recording: Filename "date", sample rate "96", format "mono", prerecord "on", sound marker "off", counter "remaining time"
  • Output: HP alert "-20", line "+4, limiter off no delay"
  • USB I/F: PC, linear (works more generally with Linux), loopback "off", mono mix "on" (I use a single-ear headphone while recording instrument rehearsals), monitor "on"
  • System: date "YYMMDD" (better for sorting), LCD "off, contrast 3", power "Lithium, 10 minute auto-off", timecode (dunno, not a professional video guy)
  • Mic: source "48 phantom", HPF "50 Hz", invert "off", delay "0"
  • Etc: waveform usually between 1 and 8, HP usually 70 to 80 (lower when direct into IEMs), always on HOLD unless otherwise necessary


TURN OFF YOUR HPF!


Recording music? You want to capture low bass, and there are lots of fundamentals below 50 Hz.


Low E on a 4-string bass is 41 Hz; I think you will want that.

Great list and agree with morst in turning off HPF.  I'd rather record all frequencies and roll it off in post.  For example, I find the KK184's a touch bass heavy but this can be fixed easily and they sound amazing.
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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #248 on: July 26, 2025, 05:10:31 PM »
True that it's easier to trim away noise in post than to add back signal.

The 50 Hz HPF was a tradeoff on my last recording due to expecting wind noise on the figure 8, and I still needed to add a bass notch because the kick drum carried through strongly.

Indoors? Omni? Both, always unfiltered.

So, if I can edit my post, general recommendation is the LPF HPF built into the mic @ 20-ish.
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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #249 on: July 26, 2025, 07:31:41 PM »
True that it's easier to trim away noise in post than to add back signal.

The 50 Hz HPF was a tradeoff on my last recording due to expecting wind noise on the figure 8, and I still needed to add a bass notch because the kick drum carried through strongly.

Indoors? Omni? Both, always unfiltered.

So, if I can edit my post, general recommendation is the LPF built into the mic @ 20-ish.
You certainly can, (and you have!)


My apologies if I came across as heavy handed there.
Very cool to see the list laid out like this.


Uh, is that a typo and you mean HPF though? Is there a 20 kHz Low pass I should know about? Would defeat the point of recording at 96k..
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Re: Zoom F3 Part 2
« Reply #250 on: July 27, 2025, 05:56:20 AM »
Is there a 20 kHz Low pass I should know about? Would defeat the point of recording at 96k..

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