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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2025, 12:25:06 PM »
I'd be more than willing to do a test run for Logic Pro models if you'd like to compare.
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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2025, 02:44:02 PM »
I'd be more than willing to do a test run for Logic Pro models if you'd like to compare.


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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2025, 06:31:48 AM »
In SL there is a "Unmix song" and there is one layer for "Sax and Brass" maybe should of run that for you. Put the original file from wifijeff into wavelab with the piano stem and it brought out the piano and he could adjust to his liking.

IMO RX is way behind the rest of the stem software. It does not sound as good as other stem software and has a metallic sound to the stems. The interface is clunky. You have to save each stem separately after it splits the original file into stems. They did not add an automatic stem saving wav files...arg. RX is the slowest processing between UVR and SL. Hopefully they step up their game.

Thanks to hoserama for the info about 24 bit in UVR. Where did you see that option? Maybe I have an older version of UVR.

hoserama I would be interested in the Logic pro models stems if you run them for Wifijeff. Will send you a PM.

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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2025, 08:30:22 AM »
Nvidia - the AI stemming models use the Nvidia CUDA toolkit. So you'll need a compatible nvidia card to supercharge the processing...makes a huge difference in terms of timing. 2 hour show for the htdemucs_ft model typically took 8-9 hours when I was just running on CPU...takes 20 minutes with my Nvidia card.

16-bit/24-bit - My UVR has a setting to allow for 24 bit.

Logic - Buddy of mine has a beta program where he extracted the Logic Pro models (and a few others) and we've been running it in windows. Still in development but it can be done outside of the mac environment. I've stopped using demucs ever since getting the LogicP models running. I'll make a post on here when it's ready for primetime.

UVR5 Can do 24 bits, but only 44.1kHz, which no one really uses except as 16 bit.

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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2025, 12:10:40 PM »
If I recall correctly, the demucs models were only trained on 16/44.1k. So it can scale up for bit rate but not sample rate, which would carry over for UVR as a front-end for demucs.

Sent the Logic Pro stems over to WiFiJeff, feel free to share!
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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2025, 12:38:16 PM »
Thanks to hoserama for the info about 24 bit in UVR. Where did you see that option? Maybe I have an older version of UVR.

Pulled up my UVR. If you go to Settings > Additional Settings > Wav Type, it'll let you select the various sample rates. I have the most current version of UVR, but it's been included in there for at least a year that I've been using it.
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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2025, 06:53:06 PM »
Thanks to hoserama for the info about 24 bit in UVR. Where did you see that option? Maybe I have an older version of UVR.

Pulled up my UVR. If you go to Settings > Additional Settings > Wav Type, it'll let you select the various sample rates. I have the most current version of UVR, but it's been included in there for at least a year that I've been using it.

I've got the latest version, and I don't see a "Settings" menu

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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2025, 07:24:48 PM »
Thanks to hoserama for the info about 24 bit in UVR. Where did you see that option? Maybe I have an older version of UVR.

Pulled up my UVR. If you go to Settings > Additional Settings > Wav Type, it'll let you select the various sample rates. I have the most current version of UVR, but it's been included in there for at least a year that I've been using it.

I've got the latest version, and I don't see a "Settings" menu

Hit the wrench next to the start processing button.
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Re: AI stems separation: piano vs. strings or orchestra
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2025, 07:52:48 PM »
Thanks to hoserama for the info about 24 bit in UVR. Where did you see that option? Maybe I have an older version of UVR.

Pulled up my UVR. If you go to Settings > Additional Settings > Wav Type, it'll let you select the various sample rates. I have the most current version of UVR, but it's been included in there for at least a year that I've been using it.

I've got the latest version, and I don't see a "Settings" menu

Hit the wrench next to the start processing button.

Thanks!

 

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