Topic: PC to NJB3 MP3 Transfer Problem

[Gordon]

did that.  still nothing.

[tfrench]

What Version Firmware is installed on the NJB3?

[Gordon]

the 140

[momule]

it amazes me how many folks are still using the USB1 to transfer .  not only is it buggy as hell but it takes about 5 times aslong.

I cant suggest enough picking one of these up.!!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64458&item=6748348829&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I have 4 and have never had a problem with any of them, 2 of the cards on windows 2000 pro machines and windows has the drivers needed , so it may be the easiest install ever.
It was plug it in , and wammo your up and running in about 20 seconds .

 A 3hour show takes about 7-10 minutes to transfer on my old FTP machine  (AMD 800 Mhz)

And you can leave the firewaire cable connected at all times and just make sure the Jb3 is tuned on
 or either plugged into the wall. and it should connect with no problems..
I have never had any problems connecting any of the (3) Jb3's I have using firewire..

seems like it would be worth a $1 just for that alone . YMMV
Nick

[Gordon]

I got a firewire card on ebay the other day.  haven't gotten it yet.  usb1 or not it should show the damn thing connected.

[tfrench]

Tim, Not sure what is going on the the PC not seeing the JB3.  These are the exact steps I took:
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1) Go to "Control Panel" and remove the Creative software.
2) Then go to C:\Program Files\Creative and delete as many left over folders/files you can.
3) Reinstall the Creative disc on the PC.
4) Install the Creative NOMAD Explorer (Version 3.01.10)
5) Reboot the PC and see if it works.  (Try with the JB3 powereed on and plug in the USB cable.  If this doesn't work, try to plug in the cable and then power on the JB3.

Still having problems seeing the JB3 after this then try the Certified Windows XP drivers for Creative NOMAD Jukebox 2,3, Zen and Zen USB 2.0, version 1.20.04c.

Best of luck,
Todd

[Gordon]

I got no time to try it today.  I'll try everything again this weekend.  names gordon btw

[momule]

could be Too many things on your end to trouble shoot really .
such as drivers for your MB and or USB ,
how you connect the Jb3? 
Is it powered up when you connect it?
do you plug it into the wall?
Do you have the latest drivers from the web or the old ones that are on your disc..

I find most folks are not turning there Jb3 on/Plugging it into the wall just before plugging it into the PC which tends to be an easy fix..

 General rule Of thumb I find is you can take whatever disc that comes with any electronic device and trash it . As there more than likely old by the time you get the product,  and there is a new (in most cases) "better" driver to be found on the web... you have to think the Disc that came with the Jb3 was made about 4 years ago..

I would start here and see that you have the latest drivers and playcenter
 and then go from there..
http://www.creative.com/support/

(Latest firmware)
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product_ID=296&dlcentric=7482&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&OSName=Windows+2000

here are the links if you run win 2000

(Creative MediaSource Software Update version 2.03.29)
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product_ID=296&dlcentric=8183&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&OSName=Windows+2000

(driver)
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product_ID=296&dlcentric=100003&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&OSName=Windows+2000

Here are the ones for XP
(Creative MediaSource Software Update version 2.03.29)
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product_ID=296&dlcentric=8183&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&OSName=Windows+XP

(Driver) version 1.20.04c
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download2.asp?Product_ID=296&dlcentric=3873&Product_Name=NOMAD+Jukebox+3&OSName=Windows+XP

[F.O.Bean]

http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp

scroll down to the 'drivers' section and d/l eitehr the 1.20.04c or the 1.21.01a drivers for faster firewire speed and to connect via firewire

even when i uninstal-reinstall the playcenter disc, i cant connect w/ the firewire, usb always worked like a chamr on my xp pro machine

so try those drivers before yinz freak out 8

[Gordon]

now I'm just getting pissed!  so I got the firewire card

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=37458.0

tried everything again as posted and still nothing!!  the damn usb still doesn't recognize the player nor will it with firewire.   again everything worked fine till about a week ago when I unistalled and reinstalled everything.

[Crumbo]

just an fyi for everyone

I could never get the playcenter (whatever it's called....the disc that came with my JB3's) disc installed on any of my XP machines (home, pro and media center).
I just downloaded and installed all the drivers from the creative website and then downloaded and installed Nomad Explorer and everything works fine.

hope that helps

[Stumptown Matt]

I posted this in another thread but got no replies so here we go again



OK I know this has been dicussed so I'm posting this here rather than make a new thread.  I recently got a refurbished JB3 worked OK with USB next I bought a firewire card and I can't get anything into or off of the JB3 and the computer.  I read this concering the subject on a different thread.

"Creative NOMAD® Jukebox Driver Update version 1.23.00
NJ3-WBDRV-W1-US

This update provides selected Creative NOMAD Jukebox players with drivers that are WHQL certified for Microsoft® Windows® XP only.



Fix:

Resolves the issue of the "Device not connected" message appearing in selected NOMAD Jukebox players. "

The only problem is I don't see this specific driver on their website but I have tried the two most recent drivers with very little luck.  When I connect my JB3 Via firewire the computer recognizes the JB3 with a little pop up that says it is connected.  I can even get the Play Center to identify all the tracks stored on the JB3 the problem starts when I try to make a transfer either way.  When I select a track and click on transfer it tells me the JB3 is busy or not connected.  Other times it identifies the JB3 but shows no stored tracks and will not let me transfer from the computer to the JB3.  I have installed and uninstalled various drivers over the past few days.  I have started the computer with the JB3 connected and I have plugged it in after starting the computer both to no avail.  I am about to start kicking and throwing stuff.  Any help would be great.
                                          Peace, Matt

[Karl]

Bad cable?  Something on the firewire card is bad?

[momule]

my bet is simply wrong driver. see above post..

Once again why I have yet to dump 2000 pro for Xp Pro..
A bit too buggy for my tastes and nobody makes drivers worth a crap for Xp it seems..
Im forced to run it at work and thats enough for me to know Im still very happy with 2000 pro.. Untill they stop supporting 2000 pro Im not switching

hell MS cant even make a patch for Xp (sp2) that works worth a crap..  If I knew more about linux I would be running it

Nick

[Stumptown Matt]

Well I'm about to give up on firewire.  I have installed and reinstalled all the drivers recomended in every possible combination.  Windows XP tells me everything is connected and working.  The computer recognizes the JB3 when I plug it in (as long as the unit is on when I plug it in).  I can even get the computer to identify all the tracks stored in the JB3, but at the bottom of the JB3 window it tells me I have 0 MB available and 0 MB used and if I click on the transfer it gives me a warning that the device is busy or not connected.  The screen on the JB3 itself shows the normal little music note icon with the arrows.  I might add that unlike the USB the JB3 will not power up on its own when I plug in the firewire cable, but once I power it up manually the computer recognizes it and the play center pops up.  All this leads me to believe it has something to do with the settings in XP, the drivers for the firewire.  My options as I see them are:
1) give up on firewire
2) try a new firewire card
3) try Notmad software
4) uninstall XP SP2 or reinstall original XP from CDs

Any suggestions on where to go from here?

Problem solved!  Firewire card was bad!