US soundboards

[fey-metallica]

Hello there.
In November I will be going to see some bands in California and I want to tape them, permission from the bands is no problem so I want to tape soundboard too. Here in The Netherlands I need my minidisc and a cable with a jackplug or xlr to plug into the soundboard. Do you have any experience with the american soundboards? I can get the idea it's totally different as the Volts in the US are 115 and here 230..What new equipment do I need?
Any help would be much appreciated!

[rokpunk]

you already have everything you need to plug into the soundboard.
if you plan on using electrical power, you may need an adapter to convert to the american standard.

[fey-metallica]

Thanks!

[jerryfreak]

audio signals should be esentailly the same, regardles sof 120 vs. 240 V equipment.


now actually getting a sbd patch, that is a challenge these days!

Thanks!

[rokpunk]

audio signals should be esentailly the same, regardles sof 120 vs. 240 V equipment.


now actually getting a sbd patch, that is a challenge these days!

hehe, and now with everyone dumping their analog desks for digital desks, you almost have to keep an AES and a SPDIF cable in your bag of tricks, just in case!

[Charlie Miller]

audio signals should be esentailly the same, regardles sof 120 vs. 240 V equipment.


now actually getting a sbd patch, that is a challenge these days!

hehe, and now with everyone dumping their analog desks for digital desks, you almost have to keep an AES and a SPDIF cable in your bag of tricks, just in case!

Digital Desks still have Analog outs (XLR). I would much rather use the A>D converter in my 744 than the A>D in the digital Desk (yes, I have done comparisons)


Although, when Kimock was doing a workshop on Jam Cruise, I did take a 24/96 AES feed. It did sound nice, but I had no control over the levels which were way too low.

[rokpunk]

Digital Desks still have Analog outs (XLR). I would much rather use the A>D converter in my 744 than the A>D in the digital Desk (yes, I have done comparisons)
Although, when Kimock was doing a workshop on Jam Cruise, I did take a 24/96 AES feed. It did sound nice, but I had no control over the levels which were way too low.

Find me an analog out of the mains on my Yamaha M7CL that aren't being used for the mains! Yes, you can assign a matrix to an analog output, but aside from the L&R out, the ONLY output on the console that would work as a record feed without setting up a matrix mix is the AES out. As for you not having control over the levels when you recorded Kimock off the digital console, I know on my desk I can turn the AES feed up or down...not sure what board you were using, but I'm sure there was a way for the engineer to contol the level. I can't speak for which sounds better, the coverters in the SD 7xx's or the converters in the digital console, but I speak from experience when I say that the digi out of the Yamaha board is pretty nice sounding! YMMV.

[Charlie Miller]

Digital Desks still have Analog outs (XLR). I would much rather use the A>D converter in my 744 than the A>D in the digital Desk (yes, I have done comparisons)
Although, when Kimock was doing a workshop on Jam Cruise, I did take a 24/96 AES feed. It did sound nice, but I had no control over the levels which were way too low.

Find me an analog out of the mains on my Yamaha M7CL that aren't being used for the mains! Yes, you can assign a matrix to an analog output, but aside from the L&R out, the ONLY output on the console that would work as a record feed without setting up a matrix mix is the AES out. As for you not having control over the levels when you recorded Kimock off the digital console, I know on my desk I can turn the AES feed up or down...not sure what board you were using, but I'm sure there was a way for the engineer to contol the level. I can't speak for which sounds better, the coverters in the SD 7xx's or the converters in the digital console, but I speak from experience when I say that the digi out of the Yamaha board is pretty nice sounding! YMMV.

I honestly don't recall which consoles they had on jam cruise, but I'm pretty sure that they were Yamahas. As for my feed, I always use Matrix outs for my recording feeds. I'm not saying there wasn't a control for the AES out, I'm saying that the engineer didn't know how to adjust it. As for me, I've never mixed on a Digital console. I gave up mixing live sound a few years ago. I wasn't enjoying it anymore and I wanted to get back to taping. Yes, the Yamaha A>D sounds good, but I like the SD A>D better. When I get a chance, I'll dig up the multitracks and will post some clips for you to hear. I'm curious to get other folks feedback/opinions as to which they like better.

time to board the plane....

cm