Topic: Edirol R09HR

[any slash]

instead of that dinky lil' stand i would be a lot more tempted if the in-box gunk included a crappy basic protective case or windshield

[Sunday Driver]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics.

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472

<< Note: This is a mono recording. >>

It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

[Falconidave]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472
It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

That's not really fair to judge or make a comparison to the old R-09 by this recording.  There is no mention of location in the venue or even bitrate/resolution.  It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

[echo1434]

It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

MP3 based stuff doesn't really compress any differently that lossless stuff when put to FLAC (although it's a stupid thing to do, of course).

The size of this show is probably related to low levels and/or being in mono.

[Sunday Driver]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472
It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

That's not really fair to judge or make a comparison to the old R-09 by this recording.  There is no mention of location in the venue or even bitrate/resolution.  It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

Yea, piece of crap recording...I agree. I guess samples are going to vary widely. It's the first concert that I have seen taped with the new Edirol R-09HR though.

[dorrcoq]

Yea, piece of crap recording...I agree.

HMMMMM  According to the seeder - "Very good sounding audience recording..."

[powermonkey]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472
It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

That's not really fair to judge or make a comparison to the old R-09 by this recording.  There is no mention of location in the venue or even bitrate/resolution.  It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

Yea, piece of crap recording...I agree. I guess samples are going to vary widely. It's the first concert that I have seen taped with the new Edirol R-09HR though.

I taped my mates, a band called Nebraska, with my R09HR. 320k mp3s but it might help I suppose. Didn't use the internal mics, though, went CA-11 > FEL pre > R09HR

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A6BZSHTE

[Sunday Driver]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472
It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

That's not really fair to judge or make a comparison to the old R-09 by this recording.  There is no mention of location in the venue or even bitrate/resolution.  It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

Yea, piece of crap recording...I agree. I guess samples are going to vary widely. It's the first concert that I have seen taped with the new Edirol R-09HR though.

I taped my mates, a band called Nebraska, with my R09HR. 320k mp3s but it might help I suppose. Didn't use the internal mics, though, went CA-11 > FEL pre > R09HR

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A6BZSHTE

Thank you for sharing that. 10 times more accurate "samples". The music is good too. 

[polewka]

Taped Ladytron with my HR, but funked it right up. Set the rec level to 18, and used 96 setting on the BB.

Then went and plonked myself too close, which means a lovely first timer brick walled recording. last time I did that was on cassette in 1995. About 30 feet from the right stack (engrained in me from 10 years plus of MD recording). That said I've heard a couple of reports of real unhealthy sounds on their current tour. Way saturated with bass, and not good sound in general. They also ramped up the sound by 30% or so for the encore.

So, was annoyed, but the R-09HR is a lovely little unit, and easy to use stealthily with the settings set up to drop the flashing red LED's after 10 secs of flipping the hold switch.

Next up, Einsturzende Neubauten. Gonna be bugging the guys on the Mixer at that one. (meaning am right in front of it, not asking for a patch - I'm NEVER that lucky).

Anyone care to share tips for avaoiding brickwalls would be much appreciated. Is the Edirol very sensitive to this, I guess it has a lot more to do with the mics + bb set up though ?

[jamroom]

Sorry to hear of your troubles. Did you not check the levels when the band started? Essential - I usually check a couple of times during the first couple of songs. Better running it quieter where you can boost in post, if needs be.

Regarding the RED LIGHT - the R09 has a setting where it goes off after two seconds, I would have presumed the HR would be the same?

Good luck with Einsturzende Neubauten - that should be interesting!

[Sunday Driver]

polewka, what mics were you using? One thing that I did notice on the new R-09HR is that they raised the impedance on the mic jack slightly, and lowered it on the line input. I purchased one that should get here by the end of the month. Really want to run some tests for sensitivity, noise, etc...

[polewka]

AT943's - levels were not peaking - I set at 18 after some good advice from a quality taper. No levels saturated on the display (I check frequently).

95 on the BB, still think it was cause I was too damn close.

[Sunday Driver]

Ah, I used to use the same mics with a battery box, and got distortion running line in on the old R-09. Running mic in with no battery box seemed to fix the problem, although increased the noise floor a bit. (mic gain always on low on the unit itself)

[Dede2002]

For the curious, there is a show on DIME recorded with the new R-09HR's internal mics. http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=195472
It certainly wouldn't be fair to judge the entire recorder by the use of the internal mics, but it is a nice first listen outside of Edirol's samples. I'm really surprised by the recording...in how bad it sounds! The acoustics in the venue are terrible, but there is a fair amount of hiss/noise in the quiet parts, and the entire recording sounds "shrill". Personally, I think the internals of the old Edirol R-09 would have done a much better job.

That's not really fair to judge or make a comparison to the old R-09 by this recording.  There is no mention of location in the venue or even bitrate/resolution.  It could even be MP3 based on the overall size of the show.  The uploader doesn't even know how to spell "lineage" for God's sake.  I'm certainly not going to give this POC recording any merit... 

Yea, piece of crap recording...I agree. I guess samples are going to vary widely. It's the first concert that I have seen taped with the new Edirol R-09HR though.

I taped my mates, a band called Nebraska, with my R09HR. 320k mp3s but it might help I suppose. Didn't use the internal mics, though, went CA-11 > FEL pre > R09HR

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A6BZSHTE

Man, I'd love to hear to those samples, but all I get from Megaupload is this kind message (all the time!!!):

"All download slots assigned to your country are currently in use. Please try again in a few hours or install the Megaupload Toolbar for immediate access - with the toolbar installed, there are no more slot limitations for you!" 
 

[dactylus]

AT943's - levels were not peaking - I set at 18 after some good advice from a quality taper. No levels saturated on the display (I check frequently).

95 on the BB, still think it was cause I was too damn close.

Can't you depend upon the R-09 LED display to see if you're brickwalling?  If not, then what good is it?  As a soon-to-be owner of a R-09HR I find this very distressing.  How do you set your levels if you can't depend upon the LED display?  I do NOT have an R-09 nor have I ever used one...yet.