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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #210 on: May 13, 2008, 08:24:01 AM »
fear not, for sure the problem is mine, not the technology.

I've a friend with a R-09 and he pulls off awesome recordings........ just need to be able to do the same as I have virtually the same rig as him.

Interesting comments about the BB and the line in though, thanks for your contribution ! Appreciated.
Mics: AT853's (Cards), CA-14's (Cards)
Battery Boxes: SP-SPSB-6, SP-SPSB-10
Recorders: Edirol R-09HR, Sony PCM-M10
Camera: Panasonic Lumix TZ-7

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #211 on: May 13, 2008, 10:45:25 AM »
How do you set your levels if you can't depend upon the LED display?  I do NOT have an R-09 nor have I ever used one...yet.
Never, never check levels on site. You're stealthing, right?
You know it's loud (100+ db).
Set levels accordingly, set hold and forget.

Maybe you can compare levels with a known recording device at home in front of the stereo before the show.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #212 on: May 13, 2008, 11:09:20 AM »
can't resist taking a peak myself when stealthing. Need to reaafirm that I'm not arsing up a great gig. Well that's the plan.........

Ministry (x 2 shows) coming up, so need to resolve these issues before I venture into the world of Al et al.
Mics: AT853's (Cards), CA-14's (Cards)
Battery Boxes: SP-SPSB-6, SP-SPSB-10
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #213 on: May 13, 2008, 02:08:14 PM »
Can't you depend upon the R-09 LED display to see if you're brickwalling?  If not, then what good is it?  As a soon-to-be owner of a R-09HR I find this very distressing.  How do you set your levels if you can't depend upon the LED display?  I do NOT have an R-09 nor have I ever used one...yet.

Fear ye not! I always check my levels and have never overloaded a recording yet. The only time I was surprised about the volume level suddenly increasing, the display did show the levels going off the scale, so I turned it down.

Never, never check levels on site. You're stealthing, right?
You know it's loud (100+ db).
Set levels accordingly, set hold and forget.

You have a point, but as I find levels change from venue to venue, I always check - discretely though. These days mobile (cell) phones give off more light and the checking the display in your pocket could easily look like you are checking you phone.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #214 on: May 13, 2008, 02:48:55 PM »
Concur totally Jamroom. Just like a cell. But better, much better :)
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Recorders: Edirol R-09HR, Sony PCM-M10
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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #215 on: May 13, 2008, 05:49:41 PM »
Will the R-10 have cell phone technology? lol

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #216 on: May 13, 2008, 10:04:17 PM »
Can't you depend upon the R-09 LED display to see if you're brickwalling?  If not, then what good is it?  As a soon-to-be owner of a R-09HR I find this very distressing.  How do you set your levels if you can't depend upon the LED display?  I do NOT have an R-09 nor have I ever used one...yet.

Fear ye not! I always check my levels and have never overloaded a recording yet. The only time I was surprised about the volume level suddenly increasing, the display did show the levels going off the scale, so I turned it down.

Never, never check levels on site. You're stealthing, right?
You know it's loud (100+ db).
Set levels accordingly, set hold and forget.

You have a point, but as I find levels change from venue to venue, I always check - discretely though. These days mobile (cell) phones give off more light and the checking the display in your pocket could easily look like you are checking you phone.

Thanks for the affirmation on the R-09 LED levels - I always check levels even when stealthing - you are right about the cell phones giving off tons of light, nobody even gives you a second glance when checking levels nowadays...

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #217 on: May 14, 2008, 04:39:56 AM »
I'm thinking on buying this nice device in the very near future since I want to tape more in 24/96-mode. The Microtrack-I I'm now using is a very nice device, which I still will be using and I'm very pleased with. Thing is, I want to know how the R09HR will perform with the equipment I'm using;

- microphones: DPA-4061; AT-943;
- pre-amp: Church Audio ST-9100;

How will the recorder perform with these mics & pre?
Anyone already did some tests with this device in combination with this equip.?
I'd like to know if there are already some accurate results since I've never used a Edirol before..

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #218 on: May 14, 2008, 05:28:55 AM »
How will the recorder perform with these mics & pre?
Quite well.
Why need a pre?

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Anyone already did some tests with this device in combination with this equip.?
I did test using BB and mics via line in and it worked well. Sounded great.
Still doubting about using higher samplerates. (big files, little audible benefit?)

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #219 on: May 14, 2008, 07:19:38 AM »
How will the recorder perform with these mics & pre?
Quite well.
Why need a pre?

I use a pre to power the mics with accurate voltage of 9V. The line-in on most recordings doesn't provide that much voltage.
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Anyone already did some tests with this device in combination with this equip.?
I did test using BB and mics via line in and it worked well. Sounded great.
Still doubting about using higher samplerates. (big files, little audible benefit?)

What about recording in 24/96? I read somewhere you can record 27min/GB..
Is it possible with this recorder to make a recording lasting for example 200min, without the recorder splitting the file at 2GB like the Microtrack does??

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #220 on: May 14, 2008, 07:44:30 AM »
What about recording in 24/96? I read somewhere you can record 27min/GB..
Could be almost right. I did not test 24/96. Did try 24/88.2.

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Is it possible with this recorder to make a recording lasting for example 200min, without the recorder splitting the file at 2GB like the Microtrack does??
The file split size is changable.
2GB max for maximum compatibility I guess. You can easily concatenate the WAV files using sox.
So there is no problem there.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #221 on: May 14, 2008, 07:55:02 AM »
What about recording in 24/96? I read somewhere you can record 27min/GB..
Is it possible with this recorder to make a recording lasting for example 200min, without the recorder splitting the file at 2GB like the Microtrack does??

The Edirol has seamless splits at 2gb.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #222 on: May 14, 2008, 10:32:40 AM »
What about recording in 24/96? I read somewhere you can record 27min/GB..
Is it possible with this recorder to make a recording lasting for example 200min, without the recorder splitting the file at 2GB like the Microtrack does??

The Edirol has seamless splits at 2gb.

Does this mean you have to make a new file, or is that something the recorder will do on it's own??
For example; When I tape 216min in 24/96, will I then automatically get 4 files of each 54min on a 4GB SD-card?
Or, in other words.. do I have to start up a new file (by hand) after each 54min?? (like I now have to do with my MT-I)

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #223 on: May 14, 2008, 12:27:42 PM »
Does this mean you have to make a new file, or is that something the recorder will do on it's own??
It's all automagic.

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For example; When I tape 216min in 24/96, will I then automatically get 4 files of each 54min on a 4GB SD-card?
Nope.
24/96 consumes over 2GB/hr. So after less than 2 hours it's over.

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Re: Edirol R09HR
« Reply #224 on: May 14, 2008, 12:53:34 PM »
Get a bigger card for longer shows. I'm on an 8gb card, but other guys are using at least 16gb cards for R09s - check the threads.

 

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